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What is a hardware firewall??

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khattam_ Original post #1
Apr 2, 2005 at 9:57 PM
What is a hardware firewall??
Why do we need it??
How does it differ from software firewall??
Is it necessary if I use a standalone computer directly connected to the internet via Broadband/Dial-Up??
T
Apr 2, 2005 at 10:27 PM
hey man khattam
i googled these links :)

*www.webopedia.com/DidYouKnow/Hardware_Software/2004/firewall_types.asp

*www.smallbusinesscomputing.com/webmaster/article.php/3103431

hope it helps:)
P
Apr 2, 2005 at 10:29 PM
hi,
hardware firewalls are like firmwares which are loaded on to the hardware. they need not require extra software firewalls to work properly. many routers have hardware firewalls.

if you are a broadband user then a firewall is recomended. a software firewall is enough.

for which firewall is good see this link

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17410

thank you.
K
khattam_ #4
Apr 2, 2005 at 10:50 PM
prathap_lab said:
hi,
hardware firewalls are like firmwares which are loaded on to the hardware. they need not require extra software firewalls to work properly. many routers have hardware firewalls.

if you are a broadband user then a firewall is recomended. a software firewall is enough.

for which firewall is good see this link

*www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17410

thank you.
hehe
check out my post on the same page about the software firewalls I've tested.................
P
Apr 2, 2005 at 10:59 PM
hi,
sorry did not notice it before. :oops: :shock: :oops:

thank you.
K
khattam_ #6
Apr 2, 2005 at 11:20 PM
I was askin about HW firewalls............. Any ideas??
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digen #7
Apr 2, 2005 at 11:26 PM
khattam_ said:
What is a hardware firewall??
Why do we need it??
How does it differ from software firewall??
Is it necessary if I use a standalone computer directly connected to the internet via Broadband/Dial-Up??

I beg to differ from some earlier posts so here I go.
1.Hardware firewall is often considered as a appliance which comes with proprietary Operating system, features which you wont find in the software class like SPI,DMZ & ofcourse ACL[Access Control Lists] etc,Cisco PIX Firewall comes to mind.But some may even point out that a machine running specifically to monitor traffic may be called as a hardware firewall.

2.Let me ask you something first,Why does anyone use a software firewall? To protect the inside from the outside.I would assume you are using a software firewall too_On similar lines usually when the requirement is huge or if the need is there hardware firewalls find their place in large insitutes,organisations etc.This doesnt mean you cant use a hardware firewall at home or a SOHO,but investing in 40k odd appliance firewall wont do a justice to its price will it?
Its a different breed totally,for the rest of your questions you may find this thread useful *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13139&highlight=firewalls
I hope you got the answers well & clear.
P
Apr 3, 2005 at 12:12 AM
I too differ on this account. A hardware fire wall is a piece of hardware that is capable of filtering the data stream based on some pre fixed rules. This hardware may / may not run a propritory OS. A 486 with bsd/linux and two interfaces is a HW firewall It does not mean that the system cannot do any thing else one can use it to check mail but then its not being utilised regularly for that. So I would term a HW firewall as a dedicated piece of hardware optimised for the role of filtering based on a set of rules.
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digen #9
Apr 3, 2005 at 12:50 AM
Yeah agree mate I kinda missed it in my post.
D
Apr 3, 2005 at 6:23 AM
Digen is absolutely right.

A dedicated firewall is typically used in large corporates, cost something like a kidney or two put together :lol: , support a huge number of users, give VPN support, et cetera. Examples would the the Cisco PIX series, although I kind of tend to favor the Symantec like the Symantec Gateway Security 5400 series featured here (no specific reason for this though)

*enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?productid=133

Also, there these gadgets called router cum firewalls (SPI and NAT or both). These are not pure hardware firewalls (using the above description), but in a way they are hardware based rather than depending on the PC environment (which I would rather term as Software Personal firewall -examples being XP's inbuilt firewall, Sygate Personal/Pro, etc.). Please note that these routers cum firewalls (hardware-based firewalls if you would prefer calling them) do their job fine for the SOHO user and may cost you around Rs 3000/-

NVidia have actually implemented the same technology (hardware-based firewalls) in the nforce3 250gb and nforce ultra series of chipsets bring huge value to these desktop products.

What Pradeep described, I am not sure if I could call it a hardware solution, but I guess he is right. I am not much of a Linux person.

Why do we need it??

Personally, I have found it very nifty in a small business environment. First, I don't need to keep the PC connected to the Internet/running the proxy servers on (save electricity bills), especially when no one is working on that PC. Secondly if the router-cum-hardware-based firewall has good filtering features and provides DMZ for my own personal rig (selfish me) , I don't need to spend extra money on a good Internet sharing software (that does not come free)

Guys, do correct me if I am wrong on any counts.

DH.

Addendum

The routers-cum-firewalls (or hardware-based firewalls if you prefer) I have used from SMC and Linksys have a lot of nifty features:
* SPI
* NAT
* Access Control
* MAC Filter (so that only PCs/notebooks whose MAC's are entered can access the network)
* URL Blocking (by site, keywords)
* DMZ
* Intrusion Detections (Detections are automatically emailed to my email address)

I would say pretty neat for the price I paid for them.

DH