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What is the Best Way to Apply Thermal Compound?

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Skud
Skud Original post #1
Jun 9, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Hardware Secrets have tested various methods of applying thermal paste on CPU and tested for their temps. In the end, they confirm what we probably know for quite some time - a small/tiny dot at the middle of the CPU is the most efficient way to get good thermals, no need to spread it all around.


Link:

What is the Best Way to Apply Thermal Compound? | Hardware Secrets
vwad
vwad #2
Jun 9, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Interesting, Is it needed to apply the paste even if you are using pro after market coolers ? :)
saswat23
Jun 9, 2011 at 5:21 PM
yup, a thermal paste is needed even if you use an PRO AFTER MARKET COOLER.
Skud
Skud #5
Jun 9, 2011 at 5:31 PM
Actually if you are using an aftermarket cooler you have to apply the thermal paste. Stock coolers generally have them pre-applied so no need to apply thermal paste there unless you want better thermals. Aftermarket coolers generally don't come with thermal paste pre-applied.
mukherjee
Jun 9, 2011 at 5:34 PM
Sheesh...I was thinking of using the spread method when my Noctua arrives..with the TX4...now what to do? :unsure: :blink:
asingh
asingh #7
Jun 9, 2011 at 5:48 PM
Cause the two metallic surfaces can never be 100% integral in docking. There would be air gaps, which would hinder thermal transfer. The TIM facilitates 100% mating of the two surfaces.
Skud
Skud #8
Jun 9, 2011 at 7:16 PM
And the heat spreader of the CPU is exactly flat, its a bit conclave. So gaps would be there with the heatsink. TIM is thus an absolute necessity.

@mukherjee: I have seen just a small drop is enough to get good, stable thermals. Now the choice is yours.
soumo27
soumo27 #9
Jun 9, 2011 at 7:37 PM
nICE Article... :) Thanks.
tkin
tkin #10
Jun 9, 2011 at 8:31 PM
People, watch these videos to understand TIM spreading properly, so follow the method that best suites your tim type.



R
Rajesh345 #11
Jun 9, 2011 at 8:37 PM
Hardware Secrets have tested various methods of applying thermal paste on CPU and tested for their temps. In the end, they confirm what we probably know for quite some time - a small/tiny dot at the middle of the CPU is the most efficient way to get good thermals, no need to spread it all around.


Link:

What is the Best Way to Apply Thermal Compound? | Hardware Secrets



But for COoler like Hyper 212 + Benchmark Reviews: Performance Computer Hardware Tests method is better rite?
tkin
tkin #12
Jun 9, 2011 at 8:44 PM
But for COoler like Hyper 212 + Benchmark Reviews: Performance Computer Hardware Tests method is better rite?
Yes, for HDTs that method is needed.
Skud
Skud #13
Jun 9, 2011 at 9:06 PM
Nice videos there tkin.

@rajesh: If I am not mistaken, you ultimately need to cool the cores of the CPUs which generally remains at the center of the CPU. So covering the whole heat spreader from one angle to angle with TIM is not going to be very helpful. I might be wrong though.
ajai5777
ajai5777 #14
Jun 10, 2011 at 12:13 AM
I have tried many methods including card spread,finger spread (covered with a plastic cover) etc but the best so far is pressing a drop of TIM applied at the centre of the proccy with the heatsink
baccilus
baccilus #15
Jun 10, 2011 at 8:10 AM
I have tried many methods including card spread,finger spread (covered with a plastic cover) etc but the best so far is pressing a drop of TIM applied at the centre of the proccy with the heatsink

That doesn't work too well for Hyper 212 Plus type coolers.
Skud
Skud #16
Jun 10, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Its not about spreading of the TIM buddy, its about the temps. If ajai5777 is talking about his Hyper TX3, it is also a HDT cooler like Hyper 212+. And as I have mentioned earlier, its about cooling your cores, not the whole heat spreader.
Piyush
Piyush #17
Jun 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM
hmmm....good one
from next time i'll be focusing on the center of the chip
but how thick should be the thermal compound?
tkin
tkin #18
Jun 10, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Its not about spreading of the TIM buddy, its about the temps. If ajai5777 is talking about his Hyper TX3, it is also a HDT cooler like Hyper 212+. And as I have mentioned earlier, its about cooling your cores, not the whole heat spreader.
The Heatspreader is in direct contact with the core and while the center does become hotter the entire area also gets quite hot and carries heat, so the more contact the better, now HDTs have grooves in them, the tim gets in those grooves and hence contact is lost with the heatpipes, HDTs have less surface area than normal plate coolers, so contact is very important, you must follow the method posted a few posts above.

hmmm....good one
from next time i'll be focusing on the center of the chip
but how thick should be the thermal compound?
If the stuff is a bit runny(MX2), put one drop on the center(small drop), then put the cooler over it, if its viscous like TX4, put one drop on center of, then spread it around with finger(use plastic to cover your finger).
Faun
Faun #19
Jun 10, 2011 at 11:14 AM
I remembre sticking it all on the die :D
Skud
Skud #20
Jun 10, 2011 at 1:11 PM
The Heatspreader is in direct contact with the core and while the center does become hotter the entire area also gets quite hot and carries heat, so the more contact the better, now HDTs have grooves in them, the tim gets in those grooves and hence contact is lost with the heatpipes, HDTs have less surface area than normal plate coolers, so contact is very important, you must follow the method posted a few posts above.


If the stuff is a bit runny(MX2), put one drop on the center(small drop), then put the cooler over it, if its viscous like TX4, put one drop on center of, then spread it around with finger(use plastic to cover your finger).


But does that have any effect on temps? That is the all important question I think. Would love to see Hardware Secrets repeating the same tests with a HDT cooler.
ajai5777
ajai5777 #21
Jun 10, 2011 at 6:14 PM
Sorry guys I was talking about the normal heat sink.In my Hyper TX3 there were grooves due to the heat pipes so I had to apply TIM using a card.
A
Apt #22
Jun 24, 2011 at 4:31 PM
Installing The CPU Cooler : Best Of Tom’s Hardware: How To Build A PC
See this link.
It basically says that applying small dots on the contact areas is the best way.
It creates a mess but turns out OK
piedpiper
piedpiper #23
Jul 4, 2011 at 2:15 PM
Can water or whisky remove the remains of thermal compound from the CPU and HSF?
asingh
asingh #24
Jul 4, 2011 at 3:21 PM
^^
Nopes will not.
Extreme Gamer
Jul 4, 2011 at 3:22 PM
It will remove the compound but will leave behind alcohol residue.

Isopropyl alcohol is the best cleaner.
ajai5777
ajai5777 #26
Jul 4, 2011 at 4:44 PM
Actually I never used any liquid to clean.I used a rough cloth and wiped it strongly.
piedpiper
piedpiper #27
Jul 4, 2011 at 9:46 PM
Oh..Where can I get 'Isopropyl alcohol'? I asked one of the chemist shop, they have this syringical spirit (doctors apply to our skin before they give an injection). So should this do the job? costs around Rs25.
tkin
tkin #28
Jul 4, 2011 at 10:02 PM
Actually I never used any liquid to clean.I used a rough cloth and wiped it strongly.
Won't work with stuff like TX4, just try it :lol:

Oh..Where can I get 'Isopropyl alcohol'? I asked one of the chemist shop, they have this syringical spirit (doctors apply to our skin before they give an injection). So should this do the job? costs around Rs25.
Yes, that's the one.
Skud
Skud #29
Jul 4, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Actually I never used any liquid to clean.I used a rough cloth and wiped it strongly.

Only once I need to remove the TIM from CPU, and had simply wiped it with a clean cotton swab. ;)
asingh
asingh #30
Jul 4, 2011 at 10:41 PM
Actually I never used any liquid to clean.I used a rough cloth and wiped it strongly.
Would not give a clean surface.

Oh..Where can I get 'Isopropyl alcohol'? I asked one of the chemist shop, they have this syringical spirit (doctors apply to our skin before they give an injection). So should this do the job? costs around Rs25.
Doctor's Spirit.

Only once I need to remove the TIM from CPU, and had simply wiped it with a clean cotton swab. ;)
Same as above.
piedpiper
piedpiper #31
Jul 4, 2011 at 10:55 PM
okay!! Thank you tkin.