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What Lord Macaulay Said About India In 1835 - Every Indian Should Read This

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soyab0007
soyab0007 Original post #1
Oct 1, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Lord Macaulay said the following about India in 1835 in British Parliament.

"I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation."


Desmond
Desmond #2
Oct 1, 2013 at 12:54 AM
And they were successful and here we are. What can we do about it?
srkmish
srkmish #3
Oct 1, 2013 at 1:15 AM
Correct. Its time to stop taking pride in something some strangers did 200 years ago and claim their victory as ours
Zangetsu
Oct 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM
this one I saw in Facebook (many users have shared this)
but this line "I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country"

i don't agree now in 2013 :-x
Desmond
Desmond #5
Oct 1, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Its fake BTW.

» Clearing the dust off Macaulay’s “famous quote” . || Satyameva Jayate ||
and
*koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/hinduism/macaulay.html

Bummer!

Here's the real speech : *www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1833macaulay-india.asp

PS: Kindly refrain from posting Facebook material on TDF please.
Anorion
Anorion #6
Oct 1, 2013 at 1:46 PM
one difference between British Raj and current system is that they at least took the responsibility of governing such a large landmass and so many people seriously.... something we balk at
think we will have post colonial hangover forever, after even another 500 years we will continue to blame the Raj for our current problems

ps... we are not unique in any way, this is a map of all countries the British have invaded
*i.imgur.com/uUQYQJe.jpg
sujoyp
sujoyp #7
Oct 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I still think if money do not go to corrupt hands our India can easily become most wealthy nation ...if politicians can stop these Rs.100,000,00,00,000 ghaplas ...its hundred thousand crore only ...not a big amount

and regarding english...if we follow the path of germany or china then we loose the huge advantage of knowledge power and IT outsourcing ...it may be good for future although.
Desmond
Desmond #8
Oct 1, 2013 at 2:13 PM
I still think if money do not go to corrupt hands our India can easily become most wealthy nation ...if politicians can stop these Rs.100,000,00,00,000 ghaplas ...its hundred thousand crore only ...not a big amount

and regarding english...if we follow the path of germany or china then we loose the huge advantage of knowledge power and IT outsourcing ...it may be good for future although.

Competition with China and Russia is gradually increasing w.r.t. IT outsourcing. Not to mention the US of A is trying to cut down on all outsourcing.
Hrishi
Hrishi #9
Oct 1, 2013 at 3:51 PM
Competition with China and Russia is gradually increasing w.r.t. IT outsourcing. Not to mention the US of A is trying to cut down on all outsourcing.

No doubt with that , that is quite imminent . What our country needs is something we can depend upon.There are lots of IT professionals in our country who rely on Outsourced IT & Business jobs.
With some stricter laws implemented in US , or outsourcing being driven away , we are definitely going to have crisis in the country for people in the IT & BPO sector.

It's high time our government learns this and do something concrete to become self-dependent on our own economy. How long can we live in the fear of loosing our jobs , influenced from foreign policies and changes.?
Extreme Gamer
Oct 4, 2013 at 8:34 AM
I still think if money do not go to corrupt hands our India can easily become most wealthy nation ...if politicians can stop these Rs.100,000,00,00,000 ghaplas ...its hundred thousand crore only ...not a big amount

and regarding english...if we follow the path of germany or china then we loose the huge advantage of knowledge power and IT outsourcing ...it may be good for future although.

What knowledge power are you talking about? Most of our graduates are not directly employable.
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #11
Oct 4, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Lord Macaulay said the following about India in 1835 in British Parliament.

"I have traveled across the length and breadth of India and I have not seen one person who is a beggar, who is a thief. Such wealth I have seen in this country, such high moral values, people of such calibre, that I do not think we would ever conquer this country, unless we break the very backbone of this nation, which is her spiritual and cultural heritage, and, therefore, I propose that we replace her old and ancient education system, her culture, for if the Indians think that all that is foreign and English is good and greater than their own, they will lose their self-esteem, their native self-culture and they will become what we want them, a truly dominated nation."



This thing has been circulating online and on whatsapp for a year now..its totally fake and taken out of context...

Edit:- Looks like DeSmOnD dAvId mentioned it before..my apologies..should have read the whole thread...
Flash
Flash #12
Oct 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Time to update the 1st post or close this thread..
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #13
Oct 4, 2013 at 1:34 PM
similar to this fake one..
somebody also shared in FB about Bapu that he used to sleep with girls etc etc (u all must have seen that)

Note: Bapu = Mahatama Gandhi
Ronnie11
Ronnie11 #14
Oct 4, 2013 at 3:34 PM
similar to this fake one..
somebody also shared in FB about Bapu that he used to sleep with girls etc etc (u all must have seen that)

Note: Bapu = Mahatama Gandhi

LOL yeah i remember that one..it was all over fb..hilarious though how people come up with such stories..
Flash
Flash #15
Oct 4, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Note: Bapu = Mahatama Gandhi
There's no need for a note.
You added the note to diffentiate from Asaram bapu? or Amul baby a.k.a pappu..
Zangetsu
Zangetsu #16
Oct 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM
LOL yeah i remember that one..it was all over fb..hilarious though how people come up with such stories..

i guess haters come up with such stories...

There's no need for a note.
You added the note to diffentiate from Asaram bapu? or Amul baby a.k.a pappu..
No not Asaram and people don't call him 'Bapu'
the only known personality is M.K Gandhi a.k.a Bapu
and i don't know pappu but it suits your current avatar :mrgreen:
skeletor
skeletor #17
Oct 4, 2013 at 8:30 PM
India's cultural backbone was broken 2000 years ago itself.
Extreme Gamer
Oct 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM
i guess haters come up with such stories...


No not Asaram and people don't call him 'Bapu'
the only known personality is M.K Gandhi a.k.a Bapu
and i don't know pappu but it suits your current avatar :mrgreen:

Pappu = Rahul Gandhi
Hrishi
Hrishi #20
Oct 5, 2013 at 1:57 AM
India's cultural backbone was broken 2000 years ago itself.

And I thought it happened 1000Years ago , when Mughals Invaded.
Anorion
Anorion #21
Oct 5, 2013 at 2:03 AM
Infighting goes back long way. 7000 years ago, Gita starts with arjuna unsure about waging war with own family.
Practically its between neighbouring states, neighbouring regions, neighbouring villages, right down to just neighbours
Unity in diversity is a myth
skeletor
skeletor #22
Oct 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM
And I thought it happened 1000Years ago , when Mughals Invaded.
The tansition of Indian society from a spiritual and pragmatic one to a superstitious and casteist.

A weak society, a weak leadership couldn't stand a chance against the invaders. You see why.

Regardless of forced conversions, conversion to Abrahamic religions was an easy way out for the socially boycotted.

Not every problem is the resut of invasions.