What to do about this slowing LAPTOP?

This has been on my mind ever since i bought this PC.

"How to make it faster?"

Brief History:
2years back got this HP dv6 laptop [Config core2duo 2.0Ghz, 3GB, Win Vista SP2, 1GB Ati]. The PC took a lot of time to boot ever since the begining due to Vista. Then it didnt take very long to start crawling.

It has been fine over the years but i was always contemplating upgrading to Win 7 when it came out. I think i missed the free upgrade as i got this from Dubai.

I know its a reasonably powerful device but want all the bloatware out.
I am not a very knowledgable person when it comes to software so i have never been able to help the PC.

So what should i do?

~I want to somehow reset the PC back to how it was when it was new. Like formatting the entire PC and doing a fresh install. [I know nothing of it though. I have just read a lot without any personal skill to do any of it] This is just an example. this is not what i am intending to do unless suggested.

However i did not get the OS disk. All i have is a partition called "Recovery" and a few disks [set of 5 to 10 i dont remember made by the shop keeper]Is this for the drivers?. I think this is common place with many HP Laptops.

I know there are many apps designed to speed up the PC like leaning the registry(??) etc but i am looking for something akin to what i said above. A fresh start for my PC.

Also i would be doing a back up of all my data as will be suggested by everyone here.

~If i buy a Win 7 OS and install it in this PC will i be able to use the same disk on another PC, like a new desktop? I know i am buying only a single license but can it be transferred to another PC or maybe used in both with seurity updates just for one.

From what I read, you don't just want to clean your windows, (which includes, registry cleaning, defragmenting etc.. etc...) but you want to RESET the laptop, to the time when it was brand new.

In that case, I had to tell you that you can do exactly what you desire.
Of course, reformatting it with Windows 7 would be a pretty logical choice, and the one which everyone here would be agree too. But since, you have a genuine OS, that choice, will not be the most intelligent one.

I have done the same thing few months back, i.e., to reset the Vista, without formatting or re-installing the entire OS, and so I know that's possible.

You would need those recovery disks for this purpose. Insert the disk, which would be most conveniently labeled Disk 1. And boot from it. You would find the option to Reset the computer. Don't remember the exact option, but I think you can find that easily. After you select the option, it will take some time, and will probably ask to enter the next recovery disk etc..

After the process completes, your Vista would be brand new, the way it's like on a fresh start.
I think, the company doesn't provide the OS disk as a measure to curb piracy. And so those recovery disks could only be used on a system which already has the OS installed.

To format a pc, follow the link How to format a computer and Reinstall Windows

Sarath said:
~If i buy a Win 7 OS and install it in this
PC will i be able to use the same disk
on another PC, like a new desktop?

Not sure

Be sure to back up everything.
And dont blame me or any other forum member incase you mess up anything.
Be cautious. Remember, back up all photo video and everything important in external drive.

^^ Ahem ahem.. I think, you missed the following quote by OP:

Sarath said:
Also i would be doing a back up of all my data as will be suggested by everyone here.

But yeah a disclaimer was necessary. :-D

Oh boy. To go back to the previous state the solution is format your PC and reinstall OS. But remember that you'll lose everything stored on that PC unless you take backup.

Sarath said:
~If i buy a Win 7 OS and install it in this PC will i be able to use the same disk on another PC, like a new desktop? I know i am buying only a single license but can it be transferred to another PC or maybe used in both with seurity updates just for one.

Yes you can use it on any one of them but not on both of them at a time.

Backup: I have a 600GB portable HD and i think it'll consume all of the 220Gigs that my PC has. However one ques: Should i use the backup utility that came with the portable Seagate drive(this will be the first time if i do) <OR> Should i just copy paste the entire drive(if that is possible)

I have only 2 partitions; one of which is ofcourse the "Recovery" partition.

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PROBLEM:

Thanks vineet369 for laying it all out clearly. However there is a problem: To put it simply
I do not have the recovery disks

No one knows where the disks accurately are. Crudely they are either with my Dad (another country) or in my previous home (another state). So it can be seen that i wont be getting them any time soon if not forever.

Simple question: "Am i doomed?"

More pratical question: Can i make another set of recovery disks now? (As of writing this) If yes, Will they function the same as the previous ones? I hope its not like restoration in which only the present state gets restored if i make them now :-(

If not then
>Should i wait till i find my set of recovery disks? OR
>Can i get them from HP or from someone using a similar laptop?
>Does the "Recovery" D: drive partition funtion the same as the 10set DVDs? If not what is it for?

Thanks thetechfreak and gameranand for your suggestions. And no i would be holding no one responsible for this (I cant afford a lawyer :wink:

Sarath said:
Backup: I have a 600GB portable HD and i think it'll consume all of the 220Gigs that my PC has. However one ques: Should i use the backup utility that came with the portable Seagate drive(this will be the first time if i do) <OR> Should i just copy paste the entire drive(if that is possible)

I am much of a geek, to use any of the so called recovery software, so I would have just copy and pasted the required files, which I think are necessary. Since a s/w for this purpose tends to make a file of its own format, and so in order to get file from that file, one must need to use the same software! Quite a hassle.

Also, you don't need to copy paste the content of entire drive, only the documents contained within Documents folder, and Desktop files, and all the folders on the root drive other than, Windows, Program and Features folders etc...
Best would be to copy all the files and folders contained within <User name> folder, since Documents and Desktop folder are inside the same.
I hope you know what a <username> folder is. (Start -> <username>)

Sarath said:
I do not have the recovery disks

That's a problem, considering the fact that you neither have the OS disk as well as the recovery disks!

Sarath said:
Simple question: "Am i doomed?"

Probably Yes! Sorry can't help you!

.. Kidding! :))

Sarath said:
Can i make another set of recovery disks now? (As of writing this)

I don't think, you can "Make" recovery disk! Recovery is a false term used here, IMO. It should be called, more of a "Repair / Reset" disks. Since you can't restore any files from those disks!

Sarath said:
>Should i wait till i find my set of recovery disks? OR
>Can i get them from HP or from someone using a similar laptop?

IMHO, recovery disks are not laptop specific, but are OS specific. So if you can arrange for the recovery disks from someone who had Vista installed, it can work too. (That is an assertion, but a pretty confident one).

Sarath said:
>Does the "Recovery" D: drive partition funtion the same as the 10set DVDs? If not what is it for?

Don't know how useful is that Recovery (D: ) drive of yours, but on the Vista system, that I had worked on before (which I stated earlier) it looked pretty much useless to me.
But, hell no, you can't use that partition to function the same as those disks!

Summary:
I guess, you should backup the data first, and then try to arrange the recovery disks of Vista.
OR
If you think, you have used your laptop and OS in 2 years, and can afford new OS, then go buy Windows 7, and do a clean install!

vineet369 said:
IMHO, recovery disks are not laptop specific, but are OS specific. So if you can arrange for the recovery disks from someone who had Vista installed, it can work too. (That is an assertion, but a pretty confident one).

Don't you think that maybe the recovery disks also contain license information of OS of that particular laptop?? Even I am not sure about this but this is a possibility right?? And if its true then he can't use other recovery disks other than his.

Dont use any backup utility. Do plain copy paste.

gameranand said:
Don't you think that maybe the recovery disks also contain license information of OS of that particular laptop?? Even I am not sure about this but this is a possibility right?? And if its true then he can't use other recovery disks other than his.

Recovery disk containing the license info?

I don't think it works that way. Windows activates itself online after its installed. So there's a very little (read 0.01) chance that recovery disk contains any kind of license info.
But I don't think OP has anything to loss by giving it a try.

vineet369 said:
I don't think it works that way. Windows activates itself online after its installed. So there's a very little (read 0.01) chance that recovery disk contains any kind of license info.
But I don't think OP has anything to loss by giving it a try.

No nothin about it. Never had a laptop. Thanks for the info.
Well yeah he got nothin to lose so he can surely try that.

I was wondering since I have the, I dont know what its called but it is found on the back panel of most laptops contain a genuine windows copy badge and a number which o think for my copy of windows.

So my ques is: can I use a friends copy or done other copy of vista home premium and then since o have the number itll get activated online ?

since I only have a licence the OS disk should be less important right.

[Many typos cant help. typing from mobile]

That licence is probably for an OEM version of the windows and might not work with the retail version of OS

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Isn't there a recovery partition of about 10GB in size. since you mentioned Recovery disc then there must be one as I have seen in many laptops and PC of HP. You can restore from there.
You can even order for new ones from HP or get one at HP center for about 1.5-2K.

abhinav_sinha said:
Isn't there a recovery partition of about 10GB in size. since you mentioned Recovery disc then there must be one as I have seen in many laptops in PC of HP. You can restore from there.

Nah it doesn't help. I tried that in one of my friend's laptop.

Windows Vista

. Better buy Windows XP (or Windows7) and perform a clean format. Be aware of all the drivers needed by your laptop (by going to your laptop's manufacturer's site) if you are planning on reformatting with Windows XP/Vista.

Here's what I actually recommend, Download TuneUP Utilities and install it. If you are not satisfied with the increase in speed even after using the above software. Consider the above option.

Note: Most of the softwares that run at startup slow down your PC. Use msconfig (in run) to remove the unwanted softwares from startup or use a startup manager.

SyGeek said:
Better buy Windows XP (or Windows7) and perform a clean format

I would suggest him only and only Windows 7 because XP is too old and the support for it going to end in coming years so OP please don't buy XP. If you have to buy buy windows 7.

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Sarath said:
~If i buy a Win 7 OS and install it in this PC will i be able to use the same disk on another PC, like a new desktop? I know i am buying only a single license but can it be transferred to another PC or maybe used in both with seurity updates just for one.

One means One

If you don't want any change from core(The factory setup I mean) buy a new recovery disc form HP otherwise go for win7.
Xp :Only if you want more lightness. But remember lesser support and updates after a while as they are going to end.

I will try this. Hopefully my PC stops crawling. Its not really that bad but i know a lot of unneccessary apps are lurking in the background.

I will try the recovery when i find my set of recovery disks. Getting them for a few thousand rupees feels like a sick joke to me. The only piece of software i have paid for twice is Angry Birds.

SyGeek said:
Windows Vista . Better buy Windows XP (or Windows7) and perform a clean format. Be aware of all the drivers needed by your laptop (by going to your laptop's manufacturer's site) if you are planning on reformatting with Windows XP/Vista.

Here's what I actually recommend, Download TuneUP Utilities and install it. If you are not satisfied with the increase in speed even after using the above software. Consider the above option.

Note: Most of the softwares that run at startup slow down your PC. Use msconfig (in run) to remove the unwanted softwares from startup or use a startup manager.

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Will wait for the windows 7 experience in my new PC due June/July.

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Yeah, what SyGeek have advised seems perfect in the conditions in which you are trapped :-D

Not only your computer would become faster, performing all the ways TuneUp provides, you will feel good, while your system gets clean!
It's the same feeling which you get, when you give a renovation before Diwali to your home

All the best!

Yeah one thing use Revo uninstaller to unistall softwares from your PC as it will search for any leftover files and registry entry and will delete them.

Also if don't wanna pay for Tuneup then you can use Ccleaner along with Auslogics disk defrag and glary utilities and get the similar results. All the softwares I suggested are freewares while Tuneup is not so its upto you.

^^ HA-HA! TuneUp is Still free, for the time being!

Giveaway Link: TuneUp United Kingdom - Computershopper promotion
TDF Thread: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/freeware/139446-tuneup-utilities-2010-giveaway.html

:bananana:

Well I would take Tune up 2011 rather than 2010 to have a complete updated version and all features. And thats the reason I suggested him freewares. Although 2010 is also good but 2011 has a complete different look and its better than 2010.

^^ Well, believe it or not, I was using TU 2008 before I saw the chance to grab TU 2010 free of cost!
I don't think, utilities such as, System Cleaner, Registry Cleaner, Defragmentation, Registry Defrag, should work any different in the new version.

So, for me, Paid, but a little old version > Free but updated version :))

Maybe, its just me.

^^ Well new features are actually added to the softwares. Take Auslogics Disk Defrag for instance. When I started using it it was just a simple degragmenter and now it is one of the most feature rich defragment utility I have seen in a long time. Now it also have a feature to show you the file that s contained in that particular block and any other features which others have.

Ok... I get it... I think, you aren't getting the point here. I think, TU 2010 would be the best and enough for OP, for the tasks he want to achieve here.
Thats it. Period.

What ever you do never use registry cleaner feature of Tuneup utilities.
Not only you will no difference in performance , its gonna get your computer into more trouble later on.

Best Registry cleaner according to me
MV RegClean 5 (Windows), from Marcos Velasco Security - Free Downloads on ZDNet | Shareware, Trialware, Evaluation Software

^^
There is gonna be 0% difference in system performance by cleaning registry. In the mean time you are gonna risk the system stability in the long run.
I have read an article abt this in lifehacker a long time ago.
What's the Registry, Should I Clean It, and What's the Point?

Well I usually experience a slight boost in start up time when I clean many invalid entries.

Some tips I found there

Well I usually experience a slight boost in start up time when I clean many invalid entries.

Some tips I found there

One more rule of thumb -- keep a
small profile (of installed software): 1) You don't need a zillion browsers --
they all do the same thing. One should
suffice, two if you must. 2) Don't run multiple AV suites. 3) Don't use multiple video players --
pick one, and load it with codecs to
play everything. Research your codecs
of course -- don't install anything you
find. For example, windows media
player + the CCCP codec pack can handle just about everything -- if some
video doesn't play after that, you need
to ask yourself about the source of
this video before taking further action. 4) Don't install 5 different IM clients --
there's IM clients that consolidate all
your accounts. 5) Don't install 20 different popup
blockers, notepad replacements, icon
themes, this-that-and-the-other. By all means, make sure you have the
right s/w for your tasks/goals. But
don't get carried away. Your registry
will stay clean, and your machine
won't degrade with time.

Click to expand...

Format and reinstall is the ultimate solution for each and every Windows problem. Install Windows 7.

There is no point of discussing about registry cleaners, defragmenters etc. Windows tends to slow down due to cluttered bloat after continuous use.

R2K said:
^^
There is gonna be 0% difference in system performance by cleaning registry. In the mean time you are gonna risk the system stability in the long run.
I have read an article abt this in lifehacker a long time ago.
What's the Registry, Should I Clean It, and What's the Point?

Only if you have a large amount of programs that run on startup and rely hugely on registry, you're gonna have to regularly clean it up to prevent it from "webbing".

ico said:
Format and reinstall is the ultimate solution for each and every Windows problem. Install Windows 7.

There is no point of discussing about registry cleaners, defragmenters etc. Windows tends to slow down due to cluttered bloat after continuous use.

That's the ultimate solution if someone's too lazy to dig up his PC for problems and clean it up. Sometimes efficient registry cleaning, removing bloatware, defragmenting regularly, disabling useless visual eye-candy features and maintaining a decent list of apps on startup will make it as good as new.

SyGeek said:
That's the ultimate solution if someone's too lazy to dig up his PC for problems and clean it up. Sometimes efficient registry cleaning, removing bloatware, defragmenting regularly, disabling useless visual eye-candy features and maintaining a decent list of apps on startup will make it as good as new.

If you ask me, just moving onto a better OS like Ubuntu helps. You don't have to worry about these useless things.

Well since i use the PC primarily to play games i need Win 7. So theres no changing that. Plus i no more have the patience to try out something new> Studies :reading:

I think i will let it die its death. Or I will install wins from a friends copy (i have a licence so i dont qualify as a pirate)

Plus i am getting a new PC meanwhile so i guess i will leave this PC to its fate.
Meanwhile i will try to kill a few startup apps and try running some of the programs you guys have pointed at.

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I have a question out of curoiusity:
If supposing my HDD fails (and to my knowledge thats where the OS sits) and i change the HDD then what happens then? I lose the OS right?

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Sarath said:
I have a question out of curoiusity:
If supposing my HDD fails (and to my knowledge thats where the OS sits) and i change the HDD then what happens then? I lose the OS right?

You will lose your OS, AND every data that you have on ALL your drives! :duh2:

So then i give it to HP. Will they re install the OS for me. I never lose the license to windows right.

^Depends, but if you are just an average customer for them, they probably won't.

Sarath said:
So then i give it to HP. Will they re install the OS for me. I never lose the license to windows right.

You said yourself that you don't want to invest any money on this and giving it to HP will cost you. Also its unlikely that they will repair it because your warranty is over I guess and even if ain't over then they'll just tell you to use recovery disks to fix it yourself.

Sarath said:
So theres no changing that. Plus i no more have the patience to try out something new> Studies

I know you ain't gonna change your OS but let me tell you that installing Ubuntu is simpler than windows and don't require studying and their app center is awesome. Told ya to clear your confusion.

Sarath said:
I have a question out of curoiusity:
If supposing my HDD fails (and to my knowledge thats where the OS sits) and i change the HDD then what happens then? I lose the OS right?

Not just OS but everything you have on that HDD.

Sarath said:
So then i give it to HP. Will they re install the OS for me. I never lose the license to windows right.

I guess you have no idea how much manufacturers like HP and Dell charge to recover/ reinstall an OS. :))

Why can't you do it yourself. Windows Vista and Windows 7 installation Setup are made in such a manner that even a retard :))

can install it without much of a trouble.

yeah, do it yourself. Will save you cash.
A oem copy will cost less.

I am gonna buy a new win copy. Whats the diff between a OEM copy and a retail copy?
Apart from the 500-1000 price difference

Sarath said:
I am gonna buy a new win copy. Whats the diff between a OEM copy and a retail copy?
Apart from the 500-1000 price difference

OEM is a computer specific. I mean it is licensed for a particular PC. Once installed its locked up with that PC and Microsoft don't give support for OEMs

Retail versions are full license and can be transferred to any PC as long as only its installed on one PC. Microsoft gives support for these licenses.

My suggestion is to get a retail copy with full license.

Thanks for the info gameranand. I will get a full license.

Yeah, thanks gameranand: That was some useful info. I always thought OEM version should be preferred since they cost less. But as they say, nothing costs less! You will have to pay for everything!

vineet369 said:
Yeah, thanks gameranand: That was some useful info. I always thought OEM version should be preferred since they cost less. But as they say, nothing costs less! You will have to pay for everything!

Yeah right. Nothing comes for free not from these companies anyways. Also OEM has a great problem it get coded with that mobo so you can't upgrade your Mobo at all no matter what or you'll lose the license.