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WhatsApp users will have to agree to new terms to continue using the service

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thetechfreak
thetechfreak Original post #1
Jan 8, 2021 at 3:52 PM
WhatsApp's users were greeted by a notification earlier today about the company updating its terms and privacy policy for users and businesses. The pop-up alert included three key updates about the change in terms and privacy policies. WhatsApp's users can choose to agree to the terms and continue using the service but the changes in the terms and privacy policy will be in effect February 8 onwards.



The notification alert states that the update to terms and privacy policy includes more information about the messaging service and how it processes a user’s data. Besides, businesses can now have a look at how to use Facebook hosted services to store and manage their WhatsApp chats. The new update to terms also elaborates on how WhatsApp partners with Facebook for integration across



Source: WhatsApp updates its terms and privacy policy and you may want to read the fine print | Digit
Desmond
Desmond #2
Jan 8, 2021 at 5:10 PM
Who didn't see this coming? Did you really think Facebook acquired WhatsApp just to sit on it?
thetechfreak
Jan 9, 2021 at 8:36 AM
Got the pop-up again today. Not planning to accept till last day.

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SaiyanGoku
Jan 9, 2021 at 8:26 PM
Would delete my whatsapp account soon.
thetechfreak
Jan 10, 2021 at 5:14 AM
A funny outcome of this is Elon musk asking his Twitter followers to use Signal led to the rise in stock of a company that's completely unrelated

Source : Elon Musk told his followers to 'use Signal,' leading to 1,100% surge in unrelated stock with similar name

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Vyom
Vyom #6
Jan 10, 2021 at 10:22 AM
^^ Yup. That was funny.
Also, since I quit WA altogether (which I did to FB couple of days back), I have following plan:
1. Take backups of important contacts. Manually.
2. Delete all chat history.
3. Restrict all permissions to WA.
4. Disable cloud backup feature. (That I should have done long time ago anyway).
5. Not connect anyone on WA, and even if I do, don't talk any personal information.

One last thing I would also do, is to provide Telegram contact information on my WA status. :p
thetechfreak
Jan 10, 2021 at 2:53 PM
Meanwhile private group chats and contacts of whatsapp showing up on Google Search WhatsApp’s Private Groups Can Be Seen by Anyone via Google
^^ Yup. That was funny.
Also, since I quit WA altogether (which I did to FB couple of days back), I have following plan:
1. Take backups of important contacts. Manually.
2. Delete all chat history.
3. Restrict all permissions to WA.
4. Disable cloud backup feature. (That I should have done long time ago anyway).
5. Not connect anyone on WA, and even if I do, don't talk any personal information.

One last thing I would also do, is to provide Telegram contact information on my WA status. :p
Never did enable cloud chat. And glad I didn't. Knew there could be a catch. Good thing I didn't upload all chats and media in plaintext to Google.

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kartikoli
Jan 11, 2021 at 9:10 AM
I am going to use DP that says moving to Telegram/Signal so people can find me there before deleting WA, though its really hard to switch but we have to do it.
Nerevarine
Jan 12, 2021 at 11:28 AM
*lifestyle.livemint.com/news/talkin...-from-whatsapp-to-signal-111610359527200.html

lmao
RumbaMon19
Jan 12, 2021 at 11:53 AM
^^
Lol, NASA and UNESCo, Never give awards to apps (Rather why shud they, one is a space org. and other is for culture)

That sanskrit code, can not be used for android and iOS app making.

surprising that people got fooled by it.

"Unkills" are also on reddit :shock::shock:
Desmond
Desmond #11
Jan 12, 2021 at 12:02 PM
"Unkills" are also on reddit :shock::shock:
No, but there is a subreddit called /r/theunkillnetwork dedicated to sharing and propagating viral whatsapp messages.
^^
Lol, NASA and UNESCo, Never give awards to apps (Rather why shud they, one is a space org. and other is for culture)

That sanskrit code, can not be used for android and iOS app making.

surprising that people got fooled by it.
Yeah, it's fabricated because Indians tend to react positively to such messages.
RumbaMon19
Jan 12, 2021 at 1:51 PM
No, but there is a subreddit called /r/theunkillnetwork dedicated to sharing and propagating viral whatsapp messages.

That place is real creep. Full of Pseudo-Patriotism. Like, Half of these cringe messages being shared on whatsapp dont make sense.

It may even become reason for Zuckerberg to make whatsapp subscription based (jk) :duh2:o_O
Desmond
Desmond #13
Jan 12, 2021 at 7:25 PM
That place is real creep. Full of Pseudo-Patriotism. Like, Half of these cringe messages being shared on whatsapp dont make sense.

It may even become reason for Zuckerberg to make whatsapp subscription based (jk) :duh2:o_O
Lol. That subreddit was started actually to mock those messages. It actually is a satirical subreddit.
aaruni
aaruni #14
Jan 16, 2021 at 9:43 PM
WhatsApp has now delayed the deadline to 15 May. This is extremely clever, IMO, as the users are likely going to accept the prompt whenever it comes up thinking 15 May is a long time away, and then forget about it.

On a different note, maybe we should get together and start a Digit matrix server.
Desmond
Desmond #15
Jan 16, 2021 at 9:46 PM
WhatsApp has now delayed the deadline to 15 May. This is extremely clever, IMO, as the users are likely going to accept the prompt whenever it comes up thinking 15 May is a long time away, and then forget about it.

On a different note, maybe we should get together and start a Digit matrix server.
Sure, let me read up on it a bit. See how feasible it is.

Perhaps we can run it on krow dot me.
thetechfreak
Jan 17, 2021 at 6:48 AM
WhatsApp has now delayed the deadline to 15 May. This is extremely clever, IMO, as the users are likely going to accept the prompt whenever it comes up thinking 15 May is a long time away, and then forget about it.

On a different note, maybe we should get together and start a Digit matrix server.
We're more than set with signal though. I can't think of more than 5 names who currently use matrix or advocate for it.

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aaruni
aaruni #17
Jan 17, 2021 at 6:55 AM
I can't think of more than 5 names who currently use matrix or advocate for it.

Maybe that's because not enough people know about it.

Maybe Matrix isn't quite ready for daily driver usage, but the fact that its federated makes it so appealing to me.
izzikio_rage
Jan 17, 2021 at 10:52 AM
There is a digit WA group? How does one get in?

Hopefully that moves to signal or discord soon
rockfella
rockfella #20
Jan 17, 2021 at 6:07 PM
I am going to use DP that says moving to Telegram/Signal so people can find me there before deleting WA, though its really hard to switch but we have to do it.
You do that today and telegram will change their policies sooner or later :)
kartikoli
kartikoli #22
Jan 18, 2021 at 5:23 PM
You do that today and telegram will change their policies sooner or later :)
then will move to other apps :D
Its business so there will be adds but my coworker shared her story and i was shocked
She had an argument on WA with her husband and as soon she checkrf FB there were adds from lawyers, second time she was talking about MBA courses and then checks FB, same result. Lastly she was talking to her sister regarding some promotions on a website and she gets an adward on FB yet again so this means they are checking our chat messages in real-time using algorithms. Thats just too much, unless she missed something its really bad to know our 1-1 chats are not secure
rockfella
rockfella #23
Jan 19, 2021 at 4:24 AM
then will move to other apps :D
Its business so there will be adds but my coworker shared her story and i was shocked
She had an argument on WA with her husband and as soon she checkrf FB there were adds from lawyers, second time she was talking about MBA courses and then checks FB, same result. Lastly she was talking to her sister regarding some promotions on a website and she gets an adward on FB yet again so this means they are checking our chat messages in real-time using algorithms. Thats just too much, unless she missed something its really bad to know our 1-1 chats are not secure
This is very common now. You can uninstall a hidden facebook app (that is installed in probably all phone even if you don't have facebook installed) .. it might help.. :)
Whatsapp is free so we are the product :)
topgear
topgear #24
Feb 6, 2021 at 7:06 AM
then will move to other apps :D
Its business so there will be adds but my coworker shared her story and i was shocked
She had an argument on WA with her husband and as soon she checkrf FB there were adds from lawyers, second time she was talking about MBA courses and then checks FB, same result. Lastly she was talking to her sister regarding some promotions on a website and she gets an adward on FB yet again so this means they are checking our chat messages in real-time using algorithms. Thats just too much, unless she missed something its really bad to know our 1-1 chats are not secure

Victim of Targeted Advertising but it's everywhere nowadays :D
*edu.gcfglobal.org/en/thenow/what-is-targeted-advertising/1/

And whatsapp sending user data to FB for years :
*techcrunch.com/2016/08/25/whatsapp...cebook-for-ad-targeting-heres-how-to-opt-out/
Anorion
Anorion #25
Feb 8, 2021 at 4:23 PM
A lot of the problems around privacy here because we don't have data privacy laws in place, and the bill has been committee'd
thetechfreak
Feb 8, 2021 at 7:10 PM
Even if there are a lot of bills a lot of data will be shared. Many users I know who've never used Instagram see people they've only ever rarely spoken in whatsapp as suggested.

This happens even if all permissions are switched off. I'm sure many among us also has seen this happen as well.

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amohit007 #27
Apr 18, 2021 at 7:27 PM
I do not agree with the new WhatsApp policy why they change policy it's very horrible now they use user data for doing many things like ads or share users data with another platform this is not good for us.
vidhubhushan
Apr 18, 2021 at 8:38 PM
I do not agree with the new WhatsApp policy why they change policy it's very horrible now they use user data for doing many things like ads or share users data with another platform this is not good for us.
they change it because they want money and people are using whatsapp for free so they want to use the data of these people. for them, it is not another platform but the parent company.
as per the current situation, if you don't like it, stop using it and start using something else.
Æsoteric Positron
Apr 22, 2021 at 10:44 AM
then will move to other apps :D
Its business so there will be adds but my coworker shared her story and i was shocked
She had an argument on WA with her husband and as soon she checkrf FB there were adds from lawyers, second time she was talking about MBA courses and then checks FB, same result. Lastly she was talking to her sister regarding some promotions on a website and she gets an adward on FB yet again so this means they are checking our chat messages in real-time using algorithms. Thats just too much, unless she missed something its really bad to know our 1-1 chats are not secure
Wow, that's really shocking, thought WA chats were End to End encrypted.
RumbaMon19
Apr 22, 2021 at 1:21 PM
Acc. To agreement, only chats between and with buisness account will be used. So if someone doesn't chat with buisness account, theoretically they should not care about it.
vidhubhushan
Apr 22, 2021 at 2:20 PM
Acc. To agreement, only chats between and with buisness account will be used. So if someone doesn't chat with buisness account, theoretically they should not care about it.
all the banks and financial institutions have business accounts on WA. does this means all the interactions including WA banking will be compromised?
RumbaMon19
Apr 22, 2021 at 3:08 PM
all the banks and financial institutions have business accounts on WA. does this means all the interactions including WA banking will be compromised?

According to wa's policy, yes. They need to switch and stop using whatsapp buisness.
vidhubhushan
Apr 22, 2021 at 3:18 PM
According to wa's policy, yes. They need to switch and stop using whatsapp buisness.

and the banks and other financial institutions are conveniently silent
RumbaMon19
Apr 22, 2021 at 4:10 PM
Why will they go against it,? In india we don't have any privacy laws like us and eu, more than half the population doesnt know about it.
vidhubhushan
Apr 22, 2021 at 4:15 PM
yes in a way one orgn might get some data about other orgn's customers and can try to get them.
Vyom
Vyom #36
Apr 28, 2021 at 9:56 AM
I am sad that due to this ongoing rise of pandemic, WA terms will be the last thing someone would care about.
And in the heat of things will accept the terms. Good strategy of WA to delay the deadline to accept the terms.
thetechfreak
May 8, 2021 at 5:00 PM
Slight update to this news. Apparently they won't delete accounts anymore but inhibit accounts

WhatsApp will progressively kill features until users agree to the new privacy policy WhatsApp will progressively kill features until users accept new privacy policy

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vidhubhushan
May 11, 2021 at 1:20 PM
Slight update to this news. Apparently they won't delete accounts anymore but inhibit accounts



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they also said they may delete inactive accounts.
no prizes to guess how regular accounts will turn inactive.
imcj
imcj #39
May 11, 2021 at 4:50 PM
Deleted whatsapp longtime...its a inferior product/service as compared to telegram. A lot of my contacts have also adopted telegram. Thats the only solution to whatsapp .
kartikoli
kartikoli #40
May 15, 2021 at 6:14 AM
they also said they may delete inactive accounts.
no prizes to guess how regular accounts will turn inactive.
I can confirm that, saw my team member account got deleted when it was inactive since Dec 2020
vidhubhushan
May 15, 2021 at 7:57 PM
I can confirm that, saw my team member account got deleted when it was inactive since Dec 2020
this is a planned strategy to force people to accept or stop using wa
Desmond
Desmond #42
May 21, 2021 at 10:17 AM
*techcrunch.com/2021/05/19/india-tells-whatsapp-to-withdraw-its-new-policy-terms/
Vyom
Vyom #43
May 21, 2021 at 11:30 AM
It's weird that my family members have been getting this "prompt" to accept new terms, but me myself haven't experienced any prompts.
Maybe they are only sending to unsuspecting users? :?
vidhubhushan
May 21, 2021 at 11:32 AM
It's weird that my family members have been getting this "prompt" to accept new terms, but me myself haven't experienced any prompts.
Maybe they are only sending to unsuspecting users? :?
are you sure you or no one on your phone has already accepted it by mistake?
vidhubhushan
May 21, 2021 at 11:38 AM
Definitely not. Only I use my phone.
i asked because i have seen 2-3 people clicking on it in haste by mistake while opening wa
Desmond
Desmond #47
May 21, 2021 at 12:15 PM
It's weird that my family members have been getting this "prompt" to accept new terms, but me myself haven't experienced any prompts.
Maybe they are only sending to unsuspecting users? :?
Perhaps because you may have already accepted by mistake?
imcj
imcj #48
May 21, 2021 at 2:19 PM
Perhaps because you may have already accepted by mistake?
Yes. That is the reason. A lot of us, including myself accepted it by mistake and there is no way to revoke acceptance. I have since deleted my whatsapp.
Desmond
Desmond #49
May 21, 2021 at 2:30 PM
This guy gives a good analysis of the claims of Whatsapp vs Telegram w.r.t. security and end-to-end encryption.

*germano.dev/whatsapp-vs-telegram/

He also tries to be as unbiased as possible and comments on the state of both of them and tries to consider all possible threats that an end user can face as well as the fallacies regarding end-to-end encryption.
Desmond
Desmond #50
May 21, 2021 at 3:23 PM
Yes. That is the reason. A lot of us, including myself accepted it by mistake and there is no way to revoke acceptance. I have since deleted my whatsapp.
I haven't accepted it yet. I just click on the X button everytime I open Whatsapp. Finally got fed up and uninstalled the app after putting a status message that I will be available on Signal or Telegram.