Which card is better choice on 350w psu

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Hi , i would like to know which of these cards is better choice for 350w psu with amd 3200+ proc 2.2ghz
1. 8600gt
2.hd 4670
3.9600gso
4.9500gt.

also i dont want to upgrade the psu , please let me know which one of the cards will work properly on my system . i am confused between 4670 and 9600gso. if they are not compatible i will go for the 8600gt.

maybe 8600GT.

if you are using 350W PSU from Corsair and Tagan, all four cards will work. For PSU's from iball/zeb/mercury, 8600gt and 9500gt may work

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i think its some local brand psu , as it is an assembled machine and quite old , i should go for 8600 gt as its cheaper and also i hv heard 9500gt is just 8600 will another name . Also can i run latest games smoothly on 8600 gt at med resolutions.?

what is the size of your display? is it CRT or is it LCD?

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go for 9500 GT..its better than 8600.. it also consumes low power.

yep. 9500GT is more or less the same as 8600GT. But it is lot faster than the 8600GT.

reason is that it is build on a better fab and has superior architecture.

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hi what about the 4670 ati , i read it also uses less power .

HD4670 takes 207 Watt under load and so, it's certainly not recommended.

I have HD2600XT (takes around 200W under load) and I had to get a 400W PSU to keep the system stable. My old 350W system used to give problems like some device (soundcard/HDD) stops working due to inadequate power.

AFAIK, 8600GT too takes 180-200W.

HD 4670 Requires only 10-70W so I think HD 4670 will run just fine.

Check this guide for graphics card power consumption :
*archive.atomicmpc.com.au/forums.asp?s=2&c=7&t=9354

10-70W??? are you joking???

that page says that HD2600XT uses only 21W-28W-49W. That's totally untrue. I had to change my PSU to 400W as 350W PSU was not able to provide enough power.

1st of all I'm not Joking. Looks like you just confisued things up.

One Question - Where from you learn that HD 4670 consumes 207W.

PCI-E slot can deliver only 75W max. If 4670 consumes 207W ! how can it run without a additional power adapter ??!!

Is it the the GFX card alone or the whole rig including mobo, cpu & other peripherals.

Take a look at here :
*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-6.html

According to this Radeon HD 4670 (512 MB) consumes 14.0W in 2D mode & 56.9W in 3D mode.

Radeon HD 2600 XT (512 MB) uses 18.1 in 2D mode and 54.4W 3D mode.

As for his Rig assuming :

AMD 3200+ consumes 65W
Mobo Consumes 20W
HDD Consumes 15W
DVD Drive Consumes 10W
Rams ( 2 pcs ) consumes 6W
HD 4670 Consumes 70W

So the total consumption is 186W.

If a generic PSU can deliver atleast 65% of it's rated current it woul be 227.5W.

Now if the PSUs 12V rail has amp rating of 16A it would deliver 192W which is enough.

@desiibond
lol,some say 8600gt uses only 70w at load and some reviews as 170w as u said,gfx power usage tests r always confusing

Dude no gfx card without a addtional power adapter can consume more than what
PCI-E slot deliver which is 75W

^lol u r correct,many sites show the total system power wen testing gfx card power usage, i got confused

topgear said:
Dude no gfx card without a addtional power adapter can consume more than what
PCI-E slot deliver which is 75W

hmm. that's a really valid point. think you are right and not joking

desiibond said:
10-70W??? are you joking???

that page says that HD2600XT uses only 21W-28W-49W. That's totally untrue. I had to change my PSU to 400W as 350W PSU was not able to provide enough power.

He's rite, it's MAX TDP for HD4670 is 50W in real.

HD4650 is about 40-45W and that's y I suggest HD4650 for Rs. 4800.

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k thanks i ll go for the 4670

No wait, go for the HD4650.

It now costs 4.4k, and it doesn't make sense to buy a 5% faster HD4670 for 5.5k.

Before we continue ahead- very few local psu run as what is mentioned in the psu specs. A 100w psu is badged as 400w, dont expect 350w or higher than 400w any different. efficiency, ripple and protection comes into place. Not that I am scaring the OP, but one should be cautious. More than half of the problem happens because of the power input- especially in India.
Goes without saying- desiibond first google then let us know if one is joking or not. No pun intended but there have been lot of incorrect info that you give to many.

comp@ddict said:
No wait, go for the HD4650.

It now costs 4.4k, and it doesn't make sense to buy a 5% faster HD4670 for 5.5k.

Thats really make sense.

But I thought 4670 is the only best performaning card compared to all gfx cards which doesn't need external power connector.

No, now HD4650 enters the arena too.

See this review. I think 4670 is 10-15% more faster :
*xtreview.com/addcomment-id-6278-view-Radeon-HD-4670-and-HD-4650-performance-review.html

Yes, but HD4670 price 5.5k, actually 5.8k, HD4650 4.4k, which one makes more sense?

BTW I saw Times Classifieds AD,
BenQ 22" FULL HD @ 11k
BenQ 19" FULL HD @ 7k

Check latest prices.

Palit HD4670 512MB DDR3 super is only Rs. 5250
&
Palit HD 4650 512MB DDR3 Super is Rs. 4850

*www.theitwares.com/gfxcards/gfxcards.htm

So I think it's better to get HD4670.

Hd4650 Ddr3?

Sorry, Thats not Palit HD4650 super.

It's palit HD4650 Sonic which comes with 512MB DDR3 Memory.
*www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=978

But that does not make sense, u sure, HD4650 was supposed to be DDR2 only!

Ya. I'm sure. Sapphire also has one HD4650 model with 512MB DDR3:
*www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=255

topgear said:
Ya. I'm sure. Sapphire also has one HD4650 model with 512MB DDR3:
*www.sapphiretech.com/us/products/products_overview.php?gpid=255

Do you know the price and the availability of the card in Kolkata ?

Hmm, nice, HD4670 features in an HD4650.

That makes a costly HD4670 useless cuz HD4650 is Overclock able, a lot that too.

Revolution said:
Do you know the price and the availability of the card in Kolkata ?

No buddy. I don't know where you can get sapphire cards in here but you can look for palit. The price is almost same.

^^Lesser, for palit, the premium(price) is lesser

Palit HD4650 sonic 512MB DDR3 is Rs. 4350
&
Sapphire HD4650 512MB DDR3 is Rs. 4400

So I think the prices are almost same ( but if you call that Rs.50 is less then it is

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Those are excellent prices indeed.

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hi dude,

read so many suggestions , but better go for ATI's HD 4670 (either MSI or SAPPHIRE).

I researched alot. this will easily work on your 350 W PSU.

I am assuming you have local PSU and worst of them will give you 60% efficiency , so total power is around 210 W.

And under full load 4670 consume 70 W (which happens in few sequences of games) , so still you can easily run this card on your 350 W PSU.

Dont waste money on 4650 , as by adding Rs 600 you can get much superior card than that of 4650.

So i vote for MSI HD 4670 512 MB (SPL NOTE : Dont go for 1 GB version as GDDR3 speed is low in those).

Ekam

U have two options still:

HD4670 DDR3 - - Rs. 5200
HD4650 DDR3- - Rs. 4400 (It's DDR3, not a typo)

The difference is Rs. 800, so you can think it again, and this HD4650 has DDR3, performing the same as a HD4670, only the CORE speed is lesser, which can easily be achieved by an easy Overclock.

THink again!

comp@ddict said:
U have two options still:

HD4670 DDR3 - - Rs. 5200
HD4650 DDR3- - Rs. 4400 (It's DDR3, not a typo)

The difference is Rs. 800, so you can think it again, and this HD4650 has DDR3, performing the same as a HD4670, only the CORE speed is lesser, which can easily be achieved by an easy Overclock.

THink again!

That's not right buddy. The mem clock is also slower in HD4650. Check this :

Sapphire HD4650 with DDR3

Core Clock: 600 MHz
Memory Clock: 700MHz

But Sapphire HD4670 is clocked at :

Core Clock: 750 MHz
Memory Clock: 1000MHz

As for ocing I don't think a 150Mhz increament in core clock & a 300Mhz increament in mem clock will be a good thing as it will produce a lot of heat & the mem OC may not stable.Coz the manufacturer may have used different memory chips on HD4650 and HD4670.

So I think it will be better to get HD4670 instead as it's the only best powerful card cosidering which does not require a extra power adaptor.

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I bought a Palit Radeon HD 4670 for 5.3K (Incl of all taxes).. Is it a good deal?

Yeah it is.