Which Of These IS the best VFM Phone?

Hi my friend is out looking to buy a best VFM phone in < 5 inch range.Budget <= 25000. Here's the questionaire

1. Budget?
Ans: <=25000

2. Display type and size?
Ans:< 5 inch

3. Dual sim?
Ans: Not Required

4. Preferred choice of brand?
Ans: Motorola, LG, Nokia, Sony

5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
Ans: LED Flash required

6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc).
Ans: Android or Windows

7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready).
Ans: Both 3G and 4G ( LTE Capable)

8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
Ans: Voice Calls, Internet, Mail, Music

9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
Ans: Moto X (first gen), Nexus 5, Huawei Honor 6, Sony Xperia Z1 Compact (Since getting Moto X1 is almost impossible iam left with the others)

10. Any other info that you want to share
Ans: No Indian brand. And please do not mention samsung (Never planning to buy one from them). Any other brands can be considered. Battery life and being fast is the top priority.

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Any Thoughts?

+1 to Nexus 5 for updates, Z1 C for camera but its a bit small IMO.

SaiyanGoku said:
+1 to Nexus 5 for updates, Z1 C for camera but its a bit small IMO.

if you're talking about Z1C, i do agree but the configuration seems great except for the size. In fact it looks even better than nexus 5. Not sure about real life performance though. Would have gone with Z3C except for the price.

If you can increase your budget get moto x 2014 or nexus 5

$hadow said:
If you can increase your budget get moto x 2014 or nexus 5

Price of Nexus 5 keeps changing in FK & amazon. i don't know why. Moto X2 has got 5.2 inches in display. And not so good on the camera department.so don't want to buy.

Have used Z1C, it's absolutely fantastic, as snappy as it could be.

Only downside I feel is that Sony could have used their camera in a much better way, as hardware wise it has got a very capable camera.

PS: Z3C has got one big big reason to choose it over Z1C, which is battery back up, which is out of the world. 3 days is the norm, so you should reconsider it. Plus IIRC the latter also supports 4k recording? BTW for how much you are getting the Z1C ?

dashing.sujay said:
Have used Z1C, it's absolutely fantastic, as snappy as it could be.

Only downside I feel is that Sony could have used their camera in a much better way, as hardware wise it has got a very capable camera.

PS: Z3C has got one big big reason to choose it over Z1C, which is battery back up, which is out of the world. 3 days is the norm, so you should reconsider it. Plus IIRC the latter also supports 4k recording? BTW for how much you are getting the Z1C ?

In FK, Z1C is listed for 24,990. I guess it's better to buy from FK or amazon than from local shops. Not sure about the price locally. Will check out later tomorrow.

+1 to Nexus 5. Just ordered one LOL.

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^Op needs a phone with good battery backup AFAIK nexus 5 battery backup is not good.

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"nexus" 5 always value for money... by the way samsung display is big fake experience to "natural" view... and nexus 5 LCD IPS display is best.. anything about nexus 5 ask mi.. I have it...

In India, I don't think google is again selling nexus 5. Stocks are not yet available.. thanks to "nexus 6" (i hate it because of moto and 6 inch.)

Snapdeal, giving nexus 5 for 22k (lowest value I seen), you can wait for that price to show up again. Black is the only option from play store (but out of stock), I don't think they will put other colors on store soon.. there are rumors about "Nexus 5 2015 version".. I doubt that.. So you have to wait long...

if you need now nexus 5 is good choice, with compromises with camera and battery (even lower with new update 5.0 (because of "project volta"))... but as far as I know.. every nexus user do root their phone... so greenify for better battery.. or buy any xiaomi power bank of 1K...

for fast chargers... there are various chargers available to do that... I think just buy one and enjoy your phone..
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I don't see any comparison with nexus 5.. It can handle every app game which you want to.. Stock os so no lag, no hang.. true experience.. (if it hangs, then because of the app which you are using causes that specifically beta versions..)

Nexus series is like entering into google environment, services etc... like you see in apple or windows (microsoft), they have their own environment..

moto x is not into the list... it's like to compare with nexus 4...
comparison what i think... moto x 2013 vs nexus 4... moto x 2014 vs nexus 5... but now because of low price..
value for money becomes "nexus 5 vs moto x 2013 vs moto x 2014" = "nexus 5"

There are no other moto...
not even nokia, "windows"... I don't know much about windows, but they are getting win 10 update.. camera is better..
sony was in competition, even giving same hardware they are not into race.. nexus 5 experience vs sony experience...
true android lovers will go for nexus 5.. like me.. brand lovers will go for sony, some are very useful apps, service and some exciting offers they can provide... on other hand nexus 5 in box with headphone, warranty, charger, usb cable. if you buy n5 from croma then some offers you get, you can try other stores also..

nexus 5 is old device, everyone can say this, but software wise its brand new. Even though it's hardware is old, 800 SoC, but there are no compromises on any android experience. 801 has no such significant improvement over 800, 805 is good but they are available with very healthy budget.

""So it's best device, vfm, which gives best android experience on 800 SoC..""

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Only Z1C is worthy of 25k, then Nexus 5, it will be a great buy at somewhere around 20k though.

Moto X first gen? Yeah, probably at 15-16k.

I would say both are good phones.

Z1C has a lower resolution screen and a smaller screen.(4.3" is too damn small imo). Nexus has worse camera.

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I would say go for the one which runs Crysis 3 at maxed out details.

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Lumia 830 or Nexus 5 hands down
Lumia 830 has better camera,display and battery life,SD card slot
Nexus 5 has better CPU,RAM
whichever of the two you buy,you wont be disappointed

coming from someone who has a Lumia 820 and a Nexus 5 as back up phones

The Priorities are :
1) Good Battery Life & Fast ( No lagging, with multitasking)
2) Good Build (No cheap plastic material like samsung)
3) Good / Decent Camera
4) 1 GB or more RAM.
5) Upgradable & Card slot will be an added benefit.

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jackal_79 said:
The Priorities are :
1) Good Battery Life & Fast ( No lagging, with multitasking)
2) Good Build (No cheap plastic material like samsung)
3) Good / Decent Camera
4) 1 GB or more RAM.
5) Upgradable & Card slot will be an added benefit.

1- Z3C. It has pretty much unbeatable battery life.
2- All the phones you mentioned are built from plastic, just like Samsung! Except Z3C, which is glass, even more bad and impractical than plastic. Nexus 5 has shoddy built! Moto X is pretty decent, but nothing worth mentioning!
3- All of them have more than 1 GB RAM, Z3C, Nexus 5 Moto X
4- Well then Z3C only.

jackal_79 said:
The Priorities are :
1) Good Battery Life & Fast ( No lagging, with multitasking)
2) Good Build (No cheap plastic material like samsung)
3) Good / Decent Camera
4) 1 GB or more RAM.
5) Upgradable & Card slot will be an added benefit.

wait for Project Ara releasing next month

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eureka said:
1- Z3C. It has pretty much unbeatable battery life.
2- All the phones you mentioned are built from plastic, just like Samsung! Except Z3C, which is glass, even more bad and impractical than plastic. Nexus 5 has shoddy built! Moto X is pretty decent, but nothing worth mentioning!
3- All of them have more than 1 GB RAM, Z3C, Nexus 5 Moto X
4- Well then Z3C only.

but can it run Crysis 3?

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seamon said:
but can it run Crysis 3?

Course, I am currently having it and playing GTA VI on it

eureka said:
Course, I am currently having it and playing GTA VI on it

settings? Can I max GTA VII in Nexus 5?

eureka said:
1- Z3C. It has pretty much unbeatable battery life.
2- All the phones you mentioned are built from plastic, just like Samsung! Except Z3C, which is glass, even more bad and impractical than plastic. Nexus 5 has shoddy built! Moto X is pretty decent, but nothing worth mentioning!
3- All of them have more than 1 GB RAM, Z3C, Nexus 5 Moto X
4- Well then Z3C only.

Z1C also has all these things right? Except for the smaller screen?

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jackal_79 said:
The Priorities are :
1) Good Battery Life & Fast ( No lagging, with multitasking)
2) Good Build (No cheap plastic material like samsung)
3) Good / Decent Camera
4) 1 GB or more RAM.
5) Upgradable & Card slot will be an added benefit.

Nexus 5
LG Nexus 5 review: Back to the future - GSMArena.com
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact review: Not your usual suspect - GSMArena.com

1) ok battery life. you can use it better. both have similar capacity battery. because of some wifi issue nexus 5 sucks more power.. &
no lagging means nexus only.
Multitasking is not properly developed.. and also I don't understand it properly, humans can't do multitasking (disadvantage). while watching movie how you can write word files? impossible.. you can't even concentrate.. think about it.. staying focused is good deal.. there are apps for multitasking. I never tried.. you can try both nexus and sony have same soc so does not matter.
2) nexus 5 build is good not great. but it surely looks sexy in hands. good grip and hold (black color nexus 5).
3) Camera is good not great.. I'm not into camera much so my choice was nexus 5. but its good one. if you are truly a photographer and really know how to capture perfect shots, camera is only thing your primary choice then its Z3 compact for you.
otherwise its nexus. I'm happy with camera.. it's not selfie cam. I can capture pretty well images, but no issue.. HDR mode can save you for good+ photos.

4) all your suggested are 1 gb and more.
5) Card slot is not needed.
"google told that they prefer apps on device memory because this gives fast access. sometimes memory cards are slower this can affect overall performance of that app if installed or moved on sd card. thats why i never suggest to consider card slot phone".
both have same storage.. so it's totally on you which to decide.
nexus 5 supports OTG, buy cable (50rs max price), or buy otg pen drives (dual pen drives) for expansion...

amit.tiger12 said:
Nexus 5
LG Nexus 5 review: Back to the future - GSMArena.com
Sony Xperia Z3 Compact review: Not your usual suspect - GSMArena.com

1) ok battery life. you can use it better. both have similar capacity battery. because of some wifi issue nexus 5 sucks more power.. &
no lagging means nexus only.
Multitasking is not properly developed.. and also I don't understand it properly, humans can't do multitasking (disadvantage). while watching movie how you can write word files? impossible.. you can't even concentrate.. think about it.. staying focused is good deal.. there are apps for multitasking. I never tried.. you can try both nexus and sony have same soc so does not matter.
2) nexus 5 build is good not great. but it surely looks sexy in hands. good grip and hold (black color nexus 5).
3) Camera is good not great.. I'm not into camera much so my choice was nexus 5. but its good one. if you are truly a photographer and really know how to capture perfect shots, camera is only thing your primary choice then its Z3 compact for you.
otherwise its nexus. I'm happy with camera.. it's not selfie cam. I can capture pretty well images, but no issue.. HDR mode can save you for good+ photos.
4) all your suggested are 1 gb and more.
5) Card slot is not needed.
"google told that they prefer apps on device memory because this gives fast access. sometimes memory cards are slower this can affect overall performance of that app if installed or moved on sd card. thats why i never suggest to consider card slot phone".
both have same storage.. so it's totally on you which to decide.
nexus 5 supports OTG, buy cable (50rs max price), or buy otg pen drives (dual pen drives) for expansion...

1)Humans can multi-task. I do it all the time. I chat with my (now ex) GF while studying and still manage to come in the top 5% of my class. Besides, multi-tasking means more along the line of downloading something while playing a game with music turned on.

2)Nexus 5 does look sexy as hell. One of the reasons why I ordered it.

3)Get a DSLR if you a photographer not a cell phone :lol:

4)Yep.

5)Not necessarily. SD cards are mainly for storing FHD videos etc. For me even 32GB is too less. That's why I got a high speed 64 GB Strontium 566x card. Expansion through OTG is tedious and drains battery even more.

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jackal_79 said:
Z1C also has all these things right? Except for the smaller screen?

Yes. I made a typo, I meant Z1C.

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seamon said:
1) I can. I multi-task all the time. I chat with my (now ex)GF while studying and still manage to come in the top 5% in the class. Besides, multi-tasking means more along the line of downloading something while playing a game with music turned on.

2)Nexus 5 does look sexy as hell. One of the reasons why I ordered it.

3)Get a DSLR if you a photographer not a cell phone

4)Yep.

5)Not necessarily. SD cards is mainly for storing FHD videos etc. For me even 32GB is too less. That's why I got a high speed 64 GB Strontium 566x card. Expansion through OTG is tedious and drains battery even more.

be careful while revealing personal details.
1) no you actually can't multitask. no one can multitask. do a google.
*www.google.co.in/search?q=do+i+rea...&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=jze5VPebDcOVuQSt-YLYBA
Can People Really Multitask or Is It a Myth?
so be in reality.. you can't. no one can't.

2) great

.. not even my gf looks that sexy... ummmm sometimes she looks more than n5

3) that's good one.. actually business strategies really going to take over real world. be thinker.

4)

5) yes it is... you can google it. but sd card slot is not the thing to consider while buying a phone.. or it should be on last (and for option)..
strong memory cards, performance wise does not affect the performance as yours. but what if he want to watch 4k movie and his memory card has worse speed then?? it will be slo mo type video.

OTG is good choice for storing. may be this can also affect if 4k played on otg..

OP stick to device storage only

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eureka said:
Yes. I made a typo, I meant Z1C.

even I was also comparing z1 c with z3 c...

amit.tiger12 said:
be careful while revealing personal details.
1) no you actually can't multitask. no one can multitask. do a google.
*www.google.co.in/search?q=do+i+rea...&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=jze5VPebDcOVuQSt-YLYBA
Can People Really Multitask or Is It a Myth?
so be in reality.. you can't. no one can't.

2) great .. not even my gf looks that sexy... ummmm sometimes she looks more than n5

3) that's good one.. actually business strategies really going to take over real world. be thinker.

4)

5) yes it is... you can google it. but sd card slot is not the thing to consider while buying a phone.. or it should be on last (and for option)..
strong memory cards, performance wise does not affect the performance as yours. but what if he want to watch 4k movie and his memory card has worse speed then?? it will be slo mo type video.
OTG is good choice for storing. may be this can also affect if 4k played on otg..

OP stick to device storage only

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even I was also comparing z1 c with z3 c...

1) multitasking means something different to different people. Your definition might be different.

5) 90 MBps(sd card speed)is good enough for 4k too, I guess.

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seamon said:
1) multitasking means something different to different people. Your definition might be different.

5) 90 MBps(sd card speed)is good enough for 4k too, I guess.

1)

please try another joke.. definition defers from people to people.. in India is true example... but stick to scientific definition.. because we are in science age.

5) might be,, but not all people can buy same sd card.. so it's defined by google to use only device storage nothing extra. increase internals no expansion. some follows some don't..

Guys! Just a minute. I meant multiple apps in the background. Not multitasking. Typo error( In fact i was doing something else while typing that. so i guess amit.tiger12 is correct after all! :wink:

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*www.digit.in/forum/images/statusicon/user-offline.png

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jackal_79 said:
Guys! Just a minute. I meant multiple apps in the background. Not multitasking. Typo error( In fact i was doing something else while typing that. so i guess amit.tiger12 is correct after all! )
*www.digit.in/forum/images/statusicon/user-offline.png

ohh thanks.. but every phone does that background work.. but seamless works depend on processor ram... so np with 800...

7 myths about quad-core phones (Smartphones Unlocked) - CNET

Sony Xperia Z1 Compact - Tips and Tricks, How Tos and Guides | Phone Tips and Tricks

Google Nexus 5 - Tips and Tricks, How Tos and Guides | Phone Tips and Tricks

If you want a decent battery, then it has got the combined battery of Z1C + Nexus 5 or even more.

Thing is if you want proper updates, then go for N5 otherwise Z3C beats it in every department by a fair margin; battery and camera should not even be compared.

PS: The size of Z3C is aesthetically much better, and better in the long run.

dashing.sujay said:
If you want a decent battery, then it has got the combined battery of Z1C + Nexus 5 or even more.

Thing is if you want proper updates, then go for N5 otherwise Z3C beats it in every department by a fair margin; battery and camera should not even be compared.

PS: The size of Z3C is aesthetically much better, and better in the long run.

The only problem with Z3C is it's too expensive (39,900) currently. Maybe if it comes down it can be thought of. Until then it's either Z1C or N5

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dashing.sujay said:
If you want a decent battery, then it has got the combined battery of Z1C + Nexus 5 or even more.

Thing is if you want proper updates, then go for N5 otherwise Z3C beats it in every department by a fair margin; battery and camera should not even be compared.

PS: The size of Z3C is aesthetically much better, and better in the long run.

before replying just make some effort by reading first post.. budget 25k

jackal_79 said:
Price of Nexus 5 keeps changing in FK & amazon. i don't know why. Moto X2 has got 5.2 inches in display. And not so good on the camera department.so don't want to buy.

Than I guess you have to see windows phone. Coz these two are the best.

amit.tiger12 said:
before replying just make some effort by reading first post.. budget 25k

I did read all the posts. But since OP had mentioned that Z3C at one instance (minus cost issues), so discussion started from there itself.

I was just lining out the benefits of the latter. And if OP has got no problem, then no need to pin point.

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dashing.sujay said:
I did read all the posts. But since OP had mentioned that Z3C at one instance (minus cost issues), so discussion started from there itself.

I was just lining out the benefits of the latter. And if OP has got no problem, then no need to pin point.

k. it's not op it was eureka (it was typo mistake) who mentioned z3c. (see post 15).. and op has not mentioned z3 c..

Actually z3c is not in the competition and its not required here in this budget.. so no discussion..
I'm not saying that op has problem or not.. i don't have any problem with you, you said you read all post.. but seems like you were not..

And I'm not pinning any point.. z3 c is better.. but not in this post because of budget..

please leave this.. no debate here.. just make op a good suggestion...

Nexus 5 OP!!

I was always ok with N5 and never considered Sony Z1C until i saw the spec and review on gsmarena. But after reading the review, it's looks much much better than N5. Of course, i don't know anyone who is actually using the handset. I have seen a lot of people in this forum recommending N5. But can i get a view about N5 Vs Sony Z1C from anyone who has actually used both set?

If you have read this much please also google ""Xperia self cracking and over heating issues"

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jackal_79 said:
I was always ok with N5 and never considered Sony Z1C until i saw the spec and review on gsmarena. But after reading the review, it's looks much much better than N5. Of course, i don't know anyone who is actually using the handset. I have seen a lot of people in this forum recommending N5. But can i get a view about N5 Vs Sony Z1C from anyone who has actually used both set?

Nexus 5 is better imho
Z1C has self cracking issues like mentioned before and updates may be an issue in the long run

$hadow said:
If you have read this much please also google ""Xperia self cracking and over heating issues"

Scary!!

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I'm using nexus 5 without any problem of os, software, hardware...

jackal_79 said:
Scary!!

Do take this into consideration.

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As you can see comparison between z1 c and nexus 5 on gsmarena

Sony Xperia Z1 Compact vs. LG Nexus 5 - GSMArena.com

Announced date z1 c = January 2014,
nexus 5 = October 2013
if compare this.. then you can see anyway z1 c is better on specs sheet... but only on sheet....
z1 c is for those people who can't buy z1. but now the price different is not much between 2, z1 and z1 c...
other hand nexus 5 is a flagship device..

nexus 5 vs z1 c...
Sony Xperia Z1 Mini vs Google Nexus 5 - Mobile Phones Specs Comparison

did you used any android device earlier???
if yes.. then you should try nexus 5 only...
if not.. then you can go by specs sheet and choose z1 c.. but I will recommend nexus 5 only...

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jackal_79 said:
I was always ok with N5 and never considered Sony Z1C until i saw the spec and review on gsmarena. But after reading the review, it's looks much much better than N5.

Specs mean shite bro. Obviously unless you are into hardcore mobile gaming.

I haven't used a Z1C, but I have used the original Xperia Z for pretty long, it was my main phone before the Nexus actually. To be quite honest it was a very decent phone, but as soon as I started using Nexus 5 it was a one way traffic for me. Not only because I am dev, because even from a normal person's usage perspective N5 is great performer all around. I am not saying everything about the device is good, especially if you are a display buff, it doesn't have a great built too, a case is a must for it, but still, there's something wrong with every phone.

But always remember, you will never have the camera of Z1C, period. Camera isn't that much important to me, so it's not a problem for me.

So it depends on your preference, if you play a lot of GPU intensive games, take a lot of photos, and need something to show off ( that glass build looks good ), then go for Z1C. But if you want a phone with actual Android and see how beautiful Android is and meant to be, then go for Nexus 5.

Can anyone suggest a good case (No flip case) and screenguard for N5?. I have decided to go with N5

jackal_79 said:
Can anyone suggest a good case (No flip case) and screenguard for N5?. I have decided to go with N5

Go only for spigen when it comes to case.

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jackal_79 said:
Can anyone suggest a good case (No flip case) and screenguard for N5?. I have decided to go with N5

I think, you should check the bumper case from google play store, or buy from local store (100 rs) back case..
And screen guard (no need for this), I bought for my nexus 5 at 399 rs glossy scratch guard with 1 year 3 times replacement warranty.. there are still lots of variety than scratch guard/screen guard. search on google..

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jackal_79 said:
Can anyone suggest a good case (No flip case) and screenguard for N5?. I have decided to go with N5

just get a tempered glass screen guard and a Capdase silicone cover,its very plain and retains the beauty of the phone and is extremely effective from impacts
I have this one-
Capdase Back Cover for LG Google Nexus 5 - Capdase : Flipkart.com
its easily available locally and is cheap
I paid Rs490 for it

spigen,amzer are also good alternatives though they have different design usually so your phones original look (without cover look) might change unless you find something similiar to my case