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MegaMind
MegaMind Original post #1
Jun 14, 2011 at 11:41 AM
Hey guys upgrading my PC to sandy bridge. I hav decided on,
CPU : Intel i5 2500K
Mobo : Asus P8Z68-V
RAM : Ripjaws X Series 8GB CL8 or Vengeance 8GB CL9 (Vengeance in stated as only XMP qualified RAM, Ripjaws X is CL8, which is ideal for gaming n OCing?)(CL8 vs CL9)

Which RAM sticks to get??
Getting the RAMs from U.S, so any other better RAM around $100??
khmadhu
khmadhu #2
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Ripjaws are good... go with it..
skeletor
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM
I'd say Ripjaws X CL8. You won't have any problem using a CPU cooler with them. Vengeance are actually quite big.
mohityadavx
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:28 PM
^^ That link in ur siggy is evil pure evil!!!
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Amhuinn #6
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:32 PM
I do not think that Vengeance is good choice. one drawback of it is that It is big in size . So I personally feel that Ripjaws is the wonderful and reliable .
Faun
Faun #7
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:34 PM
Yeah, vengeance is high profile. So you will be left with not many choices for CPU coolers.

Get the low profile vengeance version if you can get it, else Ripjaws is good.
MegaMind
Jun 14, 2011 at 12:42 PM
I do not think that Vengeance is good choice. one drawback of it is that It is big in size . So I personally feel that Ripjaws is the wonderful and reliable .

Ya i know the issues with some CPU coolers... I wont b OCing a lot...
I am concerned about the performance of the RAM..
Skud
Skud #9
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Corsair have released low profile Vengeance and these should be available here shortly. But CL8 RAMs should be better than CL9.
Faun
Faun #10
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:07 PM
TBH get teh low profile version. Both RAMs are good Ripjaws and Vengeance, meant for overclocking...I cannot comment which one is better. I got the Vengeance because of Corsair support.

I had to enable XMP support in Bios for 1600MHz.

Also CL8 RAM is better than CL9 provided the frequency is same for both.
S_V
S_V #11
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Go for Ripjaws ..CL8..
But

Corsair is also good but yes they hinder large CPU coolers. Performance wise more or less between them. But CL8 is always good than CL9.

But IMHO , I would say you to get these G.SKILL Ripjaws X + Turbulence II Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 2133. They are worth and perform better...
asingh
asingh #12
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Get the decent CL8's. If you will not mount Noctua coolers they can accommodate.
MegaMind
MegaMind #13
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:35 PM
Thanks guys, so goin for RipjawsX Cl8...
One last ques, It is said that only Vengeance is qualified XMP memory, wat abt ripjawsX??
Does XMP qualification make any diff???
S_V
S_V #14
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM
Check my post again.

Also XMP qualification doesn't really going to be a problem. It's like prepaid card ,once set it will auto configure from it's SPD profile. Other than that,if you set manual according to specs you won't find much difference.

Also you May consider these also RipJaws X CL7 or RipJaws X CL6. Get two sets since they are very cheap.
MegaMind
MegaMind #15
Jun 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM
Thanks for the info S_V..
Are RipjawsX 2 x 4GB DDR3 1333 CL7 better than RipjawsX 2 x 4GB DDR3 1600 CL8 ??
S_V
S_V #16
Jun 14, 2011 at 2:07 PM
I didn't give you any 1333 FSB Rams link.

The Answer is NO. Though you won't find much performance difference between 1333 and 1600 in General usage unless you do Ram dependent applications or Benchmarking.
MegaMind
MegaMind #17
Jun 14, 2011 at 2:43 PM
@S_V, ok i'll stick to 1600MHz...
I was thinkin on getting a 2*4GB kit n later if needed, another 2*4GB kit...
saswat23
saswat23 #18
Jun 14, 2011 at 5:50 PM
Good choice, go for it.
BTW when are you getting SB+Z68.
tkin
tkin #20
Jun 14, 2011 at 9:30 PM
You won't get warranty for RAMs bought in US here, but if you have considered that then buy this: Vengeance™ Low Profile White — 1.35V 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9W) - Vengeance - Memory

It just launched and 1600MHz at 1.35v.
mukherjee
mukherjee #21
Jun 14, 2011 at 9:35 PM
You won't get warranty for RAMs bought in US here, but if you have considered that then buy this: Vengeance™ Low Profile White — 1.35V 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9W) - Vengeance - Memory

It just launched and 1600MHz at 1.35v.

+1 if you can wait....otherwise for low profile...Gskill Ripjaws X is the way to go...
MegaMind
MegaMind #22
Jun 14, 2011 at 10:09 PM
But 1.35v work well on SB??
Anyway i'll get the RAM after 2 months time...

You won't get warranty for RAMs bought in US here, but if you have considered that then buy this: Vengeance™ Low Profile White — 1.35V 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 Memory Kit (CML8GX3M2A1600C9W) - Vengeance - Memory

It just launched and 1600MHz at 1.35v.

But still its CL9, is it better than RipjawsX CL8???
Skud
Skud #23
Jun 14, 2011 at 10:46 PM
If the speeds remain same CL8 should be better than CL9. Otherwise, the higher speed module is better.
mukherjee
mukherjee #24
Jun 14, 2011 at 10:48 PM
But 1.35v work well on SB??
Anyway i'll get the RAM after 2 months time...



But still its CL9, is it better than RipjawsX CL8???

Do yourself a favour...google for the performance difference vs price premium of a Cl8 & Cl9 kit...u will find the answer urself... ;)
Skud
Skud #25
Jun 14, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Or check this Review of GSkill Sniper at benchmark reviews:-

G.Skill Sniper 1866 MHz DDR3 Memory Kit

I guess you will get your answer. :)
mukherjee
mukherjee #26
Jun 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Or check this Review of GSkill Sniper at benchmark reviews:-

G.Skill Sniper 1866 MHz DDR3 Memory Kit

I guess you will get your answer. :)

+1
great find bro ;)
Skud
Skud #27
Jun 14, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Thanks. Some time back I have another shootout either at Legit Reviews or Xbit Labs. Search for it. There also you can see the some results. Higher speed, lower latency RAMs perform better than lower speed, higher latency RAMs.
MegaMind
MegaMind #28
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:08 AM
@Skud tat was helpful... thanks
topgear
topgear #29
Jun 15, 2011 at 2:50 AM
get G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH - you can even run them at 2133 Mhz speed - what more you can ask for ;-)
MegaMind
MegaMind #31
Jun 15, 2011 at 9:20 AM
get G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH - you can even run them at 2133 Mhz speed - what more you can ask for ;-)

But tey are 1.6v RAMs, wont they hav issues with SB?
tkin
tkin #32
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:46 PM
But tey are 1.6v RAMs, wont they hav issues with SB?
Yes, 1.5v is recommended for sandy, for OC max 1.55v, you can't go higher without stability issues.
asingh
asingh #33
Jun 15, 2011 at 12:59 PM
^^
Is it not 1.35v max.
MegaMind
MegaMind #34
Jun 15, 2011 at 3:16 PM
Now i'm totally confused... CL8, 1.5v 1600MHz good for SB Z68 mobos or not?
S_V
S_V #35
Jun 15, 2011 at 4:08 PM
Don't get confused. 1.5v is specified volt for SB but 1.65volts can also work safely. There are many people using 1.65v safely but they have practically no chances for their RAMS to overclock. With 1.5v volts you can overclock till 1.6v to get lower timings with higher mhz levels..

Regarding 1.35v Rams.. These are best option for Overclockers to get tight timings with higher mhz for just 1.5v(increasing from 1.35 to 1.5v)..

So stick to the ones you decided first. Since you don't plan much to oc.
topgear
topgear #38
Jun 16, 2011 at 4:07 AM
But tey are 1.6v RAMs, wont they hav issues with SB?

Yes, 1.5v is recommended for sandy, for OC max 1.55v, you can't go higher without stability issues.

^^
Is it not 1.35v max.

Don't get confused. 1.5v is specified volt for SB but 1.65volts can also work safely. There are many people using 1.65v safely but they have practically no chances for their RAMS to overclock. With 1.5v volts you can overclock till 1.6v to get lower timings with higher mhz levels..

Regarding 1.35v Rams.. These are best option for Overclockers to get tight timings with higher mhz for just 1.5v(increasing from 1.35 to 1.5v)..

So stick to the ones you decided first. Since you don't plan much to oc.

Guys read this ;-)

*www.tomshardware.com/reviews/corsair-vengeance-crucial-ballistix-kingston-hyperX,2907.html

They have used F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH which is rated at 1.6V and they have managed to OC it upto 2133 Mhz withouty any stability issue using a Intel Core i7-2600K and Asus P8P67 Pro mobo.

To be honest Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 rated at 1.5V was not able to pass the stability test at 2133 Mhz speed.

So memory modules rated at 1.6V can be Oced very well.

BTW, The price of F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH is 6.7K anyway ;-)
S_V
S_V #39
Jun 16, 2011 at 12:39 PM
yep...

Many people are scaring others about 1.65v Rams especially in this forum and thinking that above 1.55v will right away damage Processor... They run safe but when low volt Rams are widely available in market why to pick high volt Pack, plus with Low Volt, users can play with volt and timings safely..
MegaMind
MegaMind #40
Jun 16, 2011 at 12:48 PM
Many people are scaring others about 1.65v Rams especially in this forum and thinking that above 1.55v will right away damage Processor... They run safe but when low volt Rams are widely available in market why to pick high volt Pack, plus with Low Volt, users can play with volt and timings safely..

This explains a lot...
S_V
S_V #41
Jun 16, 2011 at 2:23 PM
@topgear

It seems Corsair is not stable because of Error present in one memory IC of Single RAM. Since these are sample products these do happens though it questions the Final product Stability.

Personally I will check with mine once i come back from my sister marriage which is 23rd of this month... yes,, I am brutally going to attack my New Rig just like I did with my i7 950 (awesome proccy).... Soon, in a week will post benchmarks of all tests..
MegaMind
MegaMind #42
Jun 16, 2011 at 2:37 PM
once i come back from my sister marriage which is 23rd of this month...

Off-topic : Wish her 'Happy Married Life' on behalf of TDF.
S_V
S_V #43
Jun 16, 2011 at 2:51 PM
off-topic too.... :)
Thanks mate... actually I will come back on 23rd.. her marriage is on 20th.......
Faun
Faun #44
Jun 16, 2011 at 3:19 PM
Blog - Corsair Vengeance High Density Module Overclock Results
S_V
S_V #45
Jun 16, 2011 at 4:23 PM
Looks like My Mobo ASUS® P8P67 PRO is not an Ordinary Board like I thought. I wanted to upgrade for High End mobo in Z68 chipset later ,so for now I bought this Board. Looks like I don't have to change it....Not Only the Processor OC's good with this Board even RAMS too....
Thanks Faun for that Link..
topgear
topgear #46
Jun 17, 2011 at 4:38 AM
@topgear

It seems Corsair is not stable because of Error present in one memory IC of Single RAM. Since these are sample products these do happens though it questions the Final product Stability.

Personally I will check with mine once i come back from my sister marriage which is 23rd of this month... yes,, I am brutally going to attack my New Rig just like I did with my i7 950 (awesome proccy).... Soon, in a week will post benchmarks of all tests..

ok buddy - waiting for it and I'm sure you will be able to do some wonder with your vengeance ;-)