Why do you guys buy a Nokia ??

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I have never understood what makes Nokia tick with the Indian population and the world as a whole .please don't turn this into a fight . i am not a fanboy and i have phones from all brands .

Given that nokia has the highest profit margins among phones except apple of course ( i think Iphone 3G margins are lesser ) i want to knw you guys opt for nokia over others
WHY NOKIA ??

I mean you get a wide variety of choices with millions of handsets . But then the build quality for a phone costing 15k-20k is very bad . The chrome paint wears off , the body creaks . I understand tht chrome wears off on every mobile but then phones costing 30k shud have something better ( talking abt N95 which my better half bought ).

I love the N82 but then its price and its build material leave something to be desired . Your opinions on this . Plz no fighting

Well,

If you want to buy a mobile, which satisfies the features you require, then you'll definitely buy it. Won't you?? Then who'll look at the company whether its SE or Nokia??

Well nokia earned its trust amongst indians right from the days of 3310/3315/1100 and all
its pretty popular amongst indian where phone gettin drenched in rain is an everyday issue. This is one dept where nokia stands apart....durability and long lastin under harsh conditions.......

I better not post here.. :lol:

Nokia does offer a lot of features in various price ranges...It is ideal for consumers who belong 2 every bracket..

i had a Nokia 3310..It was such a sturdy set...I was having Paani Puri and the mobile slipped into the water container 4m my pocket...I was amazed when it still kept on working after a little bit of drying it..So NOKIA rocks...

If one wants a mobile than it shud b either a Nokia or a SE...Only Nokia and SE have a real brand value...The phones from these brands (NOKIA/SE) have a gud resale value also as compared 2 others.

LG/Samsung 's battery backup sucks big time...And I don't find MOTO's mobiles 2 have a great GUI...Its 2 boring 2 use them..

My preference is NOKIA at the present moment but keeps on swinging between NOKIA/SE acc. to the phone models that r launched...

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Imagine you are a kisaan(farmer) who has to *urgently* hit the mountain with your lotaa(lotaa?) in the middle of a dark and windy pitch-black night! You have searched for some light everywhere but you *just* can't find it, your friend has it in the form of some lantern but you *can't* call him because you *don't* have a phone. Ooh! bad situation becoming worse!

Now imagine you have bought yourself a brand new and cheap Nokia 1200 eh?, aah.! You *got* the light and you *got* the phone, and you *call* your friend to discuss the next season's rain while doing the deed ;D

Show me another phone that has a torch built into it. Kisaan Phone zindabad!

NOKIA - For those moments when life needs you.

EDit: [..it was just a joke, don't jump at my neck..

..]

Yeah right........SE is also good about durability....but battery is slightly weaker than Nokia....... rest everything is fine with SE

Well in the last 5 years I've gone through 6 phone, of which 5 were Nokia and only 1 SE. But I never remember buying any of my phones because they belonged to a particular brand. It was always features and performance that mattered more. The phones always fulfilled my needs (whatever they were at the time of buying) at the same time fell under the budget allocated to me by my parents. That was enough for me to buy them. So in my case the phones being Nokia can be called a coincidence, not a planned decision.

Cos it makes good phones. ??

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Nokia phones come with many features,are cheap,widely available,VFM(Look very ugly though).I guess that is why they are found even with Rikshaw walas

PyS60 - I'll always buy it as long as this exists.

Nokia is highly customisable. I guess it improved with their forum nokia initiative. Nokia theme creator software was someting I really liked. I have used Nokia 3310, 3410, 7610, Samsung C100, X460, and HTC Touch (my current model). All the other models I've listed above had some irritants or the other - incoming sms on C100 would beep continuously, there was no beep once option; X460 solved the sms problem but had a new bug, I could not assign ringtones that I downloaded to my handset to caller groups or contacts, funny enough I could only assign the factory tones. Tones I downloaded to the set could be assigned to default ringtone only???!!!, and HTC Touch crawls like a snail and costs a bomb, poor battery backup - as bad as my former two year old Nokia 7610.

If you ask me which phone I'll buy next, I'll buy a Nokia. I still have my 3410 (four years old or more) and 7610 (two years old) in working condition.

To make a long story short
Nokia = Value for money

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Nokia does offer a lot of features in various price ranges...It is ideal for consumers who belong 2 every bracket..---- AGREED . THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. BESIDES ITS WIDELY AVAILABLE

i had a Nokia 3310..It was such a sturdy set...I was having Paani Puri and the mobile slipped into the water container 4m my pocket...I was amazed when it still kept on working after a little bit of drying it..So NOKIA rocks... --- AGREED . ITS THE SAME FOR A B/W PHONE FROM ANY OTHER BRAND . TESTED WITH SIEMENS & MOTO .. BUT TRY DOING THAT WITH UR COLOUR MOBILE AND IT WUD BE DEAD FOR SURE . OR ATLEAST WILL COST U A BOMB TO HAVE IT REPAIRED. BUT WONT AGREE WITH DURABILITY THEORY OR THE WATER TEST FUNDA

If one wants a mobile than it shud b either a Nokia or a SE...Only Nokia and SE have a real brand value...The phones from these brands (NOKIA/SE) have a gud resale value also as compared 2 others.
---1.RESALE OKAY . 2. But u never have phones from Nokia like LG Chocolate , Moto --Razr , Rokr E8 , that paper display phone . Samsung --Metal series , Guru mobile ,slider phones ,C100 . SE -- all K series , W series . Speaker phones from Nokia in low-medium end were the only firsts that i can think of . Nokia came into the true music scene very late . Also its cameras were only to boast as stats until 2 years ago .

LG/Samsung 's battery backup sucks big time...And I don't find MOTO's mobiles 2 have a great GUI...Its 2 boring 2 use them.. --- MOTO UI AGREED . LG/SAMSUNG MAY BE, NOT SURE .

I mean all of them make good phones but given a choice between say a similar price/feature Samsung/ LG people chose Nokia even though it looks bad or feels plasticy.
VFM : how? nokia makes more bucks per phone than any other manufacturer .either they have a very good & cheap partner in china than their competitors or they are pricing it higher than others . either way it doesn't justify VFM tag IMO .

@@ Hitboxx :: That's the best thing that Nokia came up with for the Kisan .and the truck phone was also good .
This ad from Nokia was brilliant Its plot was something like : a father & son are going somewhere and they have a flat tyre, then some guy goes out in search for them and calls his home when he finds them . then his daughter says on the phone " can we have a nokia too? "

Imagine this to be my thesis or whatever u think but please give ur opinions .

mehra.rakesh said:
Imagine this to be my thesis or whatever u think but please give ur opinions .

You working for some mobile company, I guess.

Hitboxx said:
Imagine you are a kisaan(farmer) who has to *urgently* hit the mountain with your lotaa(lotaa?) in the middle of a dark and windy pitch-black night! You have searched for some light everywhere but you *just* can't find it, your friend has it in the form of some lantern but you *can't* call him because you *don't* have a phone. Ooh! bad situation becoming worse!

Now imagine you have bought yourself a brand new and cheap Nokia 1200 eh?, aah.! You *got* the light and you *got* the phone, and you *call* your friend to discuss the next season's rain while doing the deed ;D

Show me another phone that has a torch built into it. Kisaan Phone zindabad!

NOKIA - For those moments when life needs you.

EDit: [..it was just a joke, don't jump at my neck....]

Seriously a big LOL! I mean just thinking of the whole thing is creative and imaginative at the same. I hope someone makes an advert on this concept.

for ur kind information sir, n82 build quality is fantastic .. just dont go by its looks .. mine have fallen lot of times on hard surfaces without any issues whatsoever ..

Nokia is the first name that associated with all indians in mobile world....

courtesy their rock solid 331x series... it earned a trust....

as u guys can see nokia leads in india...

but please look more close.... most first time buyers and the low end spec ones are the nokia domain mainly...

when u go above 10k or even 8k the scales definitely tips... here nokia..sony...sam... all rules..... all have their piece of pie...

Simple.Nokia has lot of low end mobiles.And s60 in the mid and high end phones.Which makes them super hit.

QwertyManiac said:
PyS60 - I'll always buy it as long as this exists.

ROFL!!

BTW you also have PyCE for WM phones.

my NOKIA 1100 was bought i think 5 years back ...

and still working brilliantly

only the keypad keys have wored off

the torch still works

what you want more... ?

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iMav said:
You working for some mobile company, I guess.

Gosh . I wish so . If anyone here is recruiting Wud like to be in their testing department . throwing phones at walls for testing & using new phones every month for free . Now that's life.

Let me make it more clear . B/W series is history & At 5000 -7000 Nokia has the widest range and NOKIA rules . I Cudn't agree more .But As one poster said , at ranges of 10k the balance tips . . I mean N70 is still popular when it was the worst phone from nokia except for maybe N95. N82 quality @ 20k is very bad . That Razr 2 phone @ 20k has better build & feel to it . May be not features . Looks is a personal choice .

So what i gather from the discussions is that about 60-70% from Nokia are those within 10k-12k about 20% are around 25k & rest are 30k & above .

Well, no sane person cares about WHO makes the phone as long as the phone is feature rich for its price and is durable and has nice warranty service, and yes, good looks.

N82 and N95 got worse build quality lol on that

Nokia makes the most feature rich phone and everybody wants that

First of all..its not just India where Nokia has a large pie in market share,its also the same story in U.S & some European nations..So don't go aorund thinking that india only buys nokia & not motorola & SE & that India cannot look beyond Nokia which is a complete rubbish theory.I have loads of relatives & friends who use Nokia & few use SE..Indian market prefer Nokia prolly because of nokia's first handset in indian market..3310 which held a great reputation of never breaking or wearing off..I remember the time when people use to say in class that even if u throw 3310 outside from a building,the phone won't break but the road will..Nokia just carried off from there & frankly speaking i found Nokia giving in a hell lot of features in a (High End)Phone than Motorola or SE...SE rules in the low end phones...they are better ones in the lowerend market..Nokia gives u features OTHER THAN MUSIC & VIDEO playing...Has a host of features which other haven't yet come close...
I haven't mention the Apple here as they are new in the market...will wait & see...

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Well , FYI moto rules in us coz of locked handset deals with carrier. nokia has a good market everywhere except US , China & Japan . SE comes second .

Well , the reason for this whole 'research' thing was that Nokia was trading the lowest ever at 22$ . I missed before too , coz i thought Nokia phones were just okay .

Regarding my opinion of N82, it is made from plastic and I felt it looked cheap coz of this .

uppalpankaj said:
Nokia does offer a lot of features in various price ranges...It is ideal for consumers who belong 2 every bracket..

i had a Nokia 3310..It was such a sturdy set...I was having Paani Puri and the mobile slipped into the water container 4m my pocket...I was amazed when it still kept on working after a little bit of drying it..So NOKIA rocks...
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Yeah Nokia 3310 is indeed a nice phone...and it also was my first phone back in 2004 :smile:

It was really a feature packed phone :smile:

Everyone should use Moto...Period..

Ronnie11 said:
First of all..its not just India where Nokia has a large pie in market share,its also the same story in U.S & some European nations..So don't go aorund thinking that india only buys nokia & not motorola & SE & that India cannot look beyond Nokia which is a complete rubbish theory.I have loads of relatives & friends who use Nokia & few use SE..Indian market prefer Nokia prolly because of nokia's first handset in indian market..3310 which held a great reputation of never breaking or wearing off..I remember the time when people use to say in class that even if u throw 3310 outside from a building,the phone won't break but the road will..Nokia just carried off from there & frankly speaking i found Nokia giving in a hell lot of features in a (High End)Phone than Motorola or SE...SE rules in the low end phones...they are better ones in the lowerend market..Nokia gives u features OTHER THAN MUSIC & VIDEO playing...Has a host of features which other haven't yet come close...
I haven't mention the Apple here as they are new in the market...will wait & see...

stop talking rubbish dude...

in US moto and some LG...thats it... they are the leaders...

Say only things that could be verified..

sandeepkochhar said:
Everyone should use Moto...Period..

Me love razr long time...

sandeepkochhar said:
Everyone should use Moto...Period..

Period? use sanitary products and stayfree lol

Lemme tell you what makes nokia tick. I have been a nokia users for years and the thing i hated the most in their phones was slow processors, specially in the Symbian based phones, which i was a big fan of. This time, 3 months ago i buyed a Sony Ericsson W660i and to tell you apart from the lack of EDGE support, i was becoming a fan. But suddenly one day, the phone stopped charging from charger, although it was charging by data cable. I took it to service center and they replaced the whole motherboard. a month later, its headfone cum charging socket became very dirty and stopped detecting headfone at times. I though of cleaning it, and tried it with a very little moist cloth. Nothing happened, everything was working fine. But on the third day, it again stopped charging. I took it to Service center and they said its a water damage, dunno how. But anyways, they said its unrepairable even after paid repairs! I was shocked!!! But then, i tried some local repair services and they also said the same thing. I opted for the external sony ericsson charger and started charging battery by taking it out of phone everytime.Painful but working solution.

5 days back, the phone stopped catching signals. It showed No Network Access on every sim i tried. I took it to Gaffar market (One stop market for everything you want about mobiles, even chip level repairs, Delhites must be knowing about it) in Delhi and the guy repaired it along with charging. But gave no guarranty. So as i though, i stopped working again on the second day and now i am looking forward to buy a new phone.

The thing is, the repair person told me that components in SE phones are so tightly integrated on main board that most of the times it becomes nearly impossible to repair. Nokia phones are best in this regard, all the crucial components that may develop faults are detachable from mainboard.

So you see, apart from the durability and "rain" factor that codename_romeo and uppalpankaj talked about, repairability of Nokia phones is quiet high. And this is the reason why they sell at comparitively high prices even in second hand market. When you buy a second hand fone, u know that you may have to get it repaired in near future, and with phones that have less possibility of repair will catch your attension more.

For these reasons, i have decided to buy a Nokia now, coz Rs 10,200 was a big thing for me and i cant just spend that kind of money to try out other companies.

Offtopic: BTW, guys, i need a series 40 based fone with all the frills like great music in both speakerfone and headfones, 3g, edge and a good screen with a little better UI responsiveness within 7-8K budget. I am thinking about getting the Nokia 6233. What do you guys say? Is it worth the prices, which i guess is around 7000 currently??

Krazy_About_Technology said:
Offtopic: BTW, guys, i need a series 40 based fone with all the frills like great music in both speakerfone and headfones, 3g, edge and a good screen with a little better UI responsiveness within 7-8K budget. I am thinking about getting the Nokia 6233. What do you guys say? Is it worth the prices, which i guess is around 7000 currently??

Get the newer 3120 Classic instead. It is better than the now out-dated 6233.

I am not a big fan of s40 fones but they are somewhat better than SE fones in durability. The s60 smartfones are the real super ass kickers. Its just recenty that WM fones have become affordable, before an year or so they used to cost a bomb. It used to be Nokia and Symbian all the way. Most SE fones (non UIQ ones) have a stupidly simple UI with minimal software support. Symbian truly FTW.

'coz of only one n all reason they r good nt too much expensive like apple n too much of variety in the market u can take according to ur requirement

Also nowadays Nokia is also selling it's low-end phones with Airtel prepaid cards, that too with lifetime validity. This makes buying mobile phones for first time owners a simple affair. Almost like the Apple iPhone. You don't have to worry about choosing the service provider, recharging the prepaid card, getting the lifetime validity done, etc. In one smooth move all these things are taken care of with the user only having to make the choice of deciding his/her phone number. Little wonder that Nokia has such a strong grasp over the low-end of the market (or the entire cell phone market for that matter).

Nokia is better because;

Relatively easy availability.
Easy repairibility.
Good signal.
Fair battery.

And now; people are getting used to Nokia. To a user who used a Nokia for sometime, the next phone is most probably a Nokia, thats what Ive seen. :neutral:

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its nt about fighting bro...!
bt u knw its a natural tendency tht the best things are somehw hated by sme....its nt tht im blaming u or something, bt this is a global phenomenon....thrs nthn in this world that everybody likes...and talking about nokia, a company cannot fool about 50% of the mobile phone user population of a country(in context of india).
Thrs no point discussing this matter.!

Nokia is popular because of the following:

Availability.... go to any mobile shop at anywhere (i m talking abt rural areas) and u will get nokia... 11xx or 16xx phones.

Affordability.... is affordable with the bundled options from Airtel & Smart.

Reliability... throw the phone on road.... it will split apart.... join it and u get a working phone. Any problem.... got it repair at any mobile repair shop. Very rare chances that the repairwala will tell you that it is beyond repair. Even the spares are still available for a 5-6 yr old nokia phone.

But nokia sucks in the Big Models.... N9x, N8x, N7x phones are slow, sometimes buggy. Even the build quality is not upto expectation.

I have used 3310, 1100, 2600, 2600 classic, 7610, N95, N73.... I still love my 5 yr old 3310 & 4 yr old 2600 than the just sold N95

krazzy said:
Get the newer 3120 Classic instead. It is better than the now out-dated 6233.

I checked out the nokia forum and nokia main website, and ya technical specification wise its 3120 classic is better than 6233 but i have one consideration : 3120 has only a single speaker, does ringtones sound that melodious and loud on the 3120c? I am also a bit off due to its round, girly shape. Any comments?

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Why has this been moved to the mobile section ? It was just a casual discussion ..

@@ Krazytechnology :: Point taken .

Please don't give me the lame reason I threw the phone on the road and nothing happened to the phone . N96 will be available in a few days u guys may wanna test it out on the road . CIAO :-

Krazy_About_Technology said:
I checked out the nokia forum and nokia main website, and ya technical specification wise its 3120 classic is better than 6233 but i have one consideration : 3120 has only a single speaker, does ringtones sound that melodious and loud on the 3120c? I am also a bit off due to its round, girly shape. Any comments?

[off-topic] I thought you might raise the question of the loudspeaker volume. That's why before suggesting I checked out GSMArena's review of the 3120c, especially the loudspeaker test. According to the tests 3120c spits out the same decible levels as the stereo speaker equipped 6233. So the overall volume levels will be the same, just that you won't get the stereo effect.

As for the design, it's totally your call. I personally prefer 3120c over the 6233. [off-topic]

@krazzy: thanks man

you made my day. I actually looked at some more photos of the phone and the net and then tried it out at one of my friend's mobile shop. I like it. I will buy the 3120c for sure, 6233 is out of my mind now. Just one more concern, In many of the classic series phones i have seen some serious limitations when it comes to GPRS. Some of them dont give the option to get custom settings from providers and provide hardcoded settings with them which many of the time dont work. My niece had such a phone, dont remember the model exactly, but its one from classic series and he can run opera on it. Not that opera doesn't installs on it, but after installing, opera fails to work with the hardcoded settings in the phone and the phone doesn't allows to get new settings from Vodafone. Vodafone rejects the settings request saying that the phone doesn't supports this feature. WTH! Can you please confirm this for me buddy?

dont say all nokia phones are repairable & sturdy, only their cheaper models are so but not the higher end models. You can throw a plastic on floor and see no damage same will not happen as such when u throw a glass on floor.

Krazy_About_Technology said:
@krazzy: thanks man you made my day. I actually looked at some more photos of the phone and the net and then tried it out at one of my friend's mobile shop. I like it. I will buy the 3120c for sure, 6233 is out of my mind now. Just one more concern, In many of the classic series phones i have seen some serious limitations when it comes to GPRS. Some of them dont give the option to get custom settings from providers and provide hardcoded settings with them which many of the time dont work. My niece had such a phone, dont remember the model exactly, but its one from classic series and he can run opera on it. Not that opera doesn't installs on it, but after installing, opera fails to work with the hardcoded settings in the phone and the phone doesn't allows to get new settings from Vodafone. Vodafone rejects the settings request saying that the phone doesn't supports this feature. WTH! Can you please confirm this for me buddy?

Java apps usually fail to connect to the GPRS in S40 phones because the GPRS settings are usually set to only be used for the built-in browser. They need to be set to be used on Java apps as well (there is a setting for it). After that Java apps like Opera Mini can work. I've faced this problem myself in my sister's previous Nokia 6060, but a bit of digging around in the Settings got the job done.

If you have any more queries, then PM me instead of posting in this thread as we are going off-topic.

and in top of all nokia's user interface is the best

^^ That is subjective. I found SE interface equally good.

ofcourse but older models of SE were not having good interface...but nokia maintained it from the beginning itself

krazzy said:
Java apps usually fail to connect to the GPRS in S40 phones because the GPRS settings are usually set to only be used for the built-in browser. They need to be set to be used on Java apps as well (there is a setting for it). After that Java apps like Opera Mini can work. I've faced this problem myself in my sister's previous Nokia 6060, but a bit of digging around in the Settings got the job done.

If you have any more queries, then PM me instead of posting in this thread as we are going off-topic.

Nah! No more queries. Will get it within a week. Arranging money for it, i wasnt prepared for this after spending 10K 3 months ago. Thanks for the help buddy.

Oh ya, i just forgot what this thread is all about. Sorry folks for the offtopic posts, please carry on the discussion

ONTOPIC: Interface wise i guess both Nokia and SE has done a very good job. I have no complaints from SE phones except for their really tight integration of components on motherboard of phone which may make the phone a bit lighter but almost zeros out the possibility of repairs.

@axxo: ya you are right buddy, but even in higher end models, only some "badly designed from inside" (in my terms) ones have got things that cause problmes in repairing. For example, the 3230 (use to be a high end model before) has a thin plastic based printed circuit connector which connects the POP port to the main board of the phone. This thin and fragile connector sits near the lower end of the phone and gets instant impacts if you drop the phone. So its one the things in the phone that makes repairing it a bit harder than other phones. The N series phones mostly use a cable based approach instead of thin plastic printed circuit connectors which is much more sturdy and "repair-friendly"

My reasons:

1 ~ Symbian
2 ~ Phones are solid
3 ~ Cheap accessories (Try buying a Samsung data cable, they have an affinity for proprietary ports which makes me hate them)

Planning to purchase Nokia 5800 Xpress when it comes out (Yep, the tube, touchscreen, multitouch, handwriting recognition and above all, S60 with 16:9 screen format)

i buy nokia as it is better than sony ericsson :lol:

( mods close this thread now :lol:

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^^ Yeah yeah, fanboy.... :lol:

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I buy nokia coz of
Symbian OS
hence i can try new n different things by installing softwares
Phones are stable
design is quite good
n last , resale value is great

and one more thing is that if we buy a Nokia Nseries phone
approx. 9 to 12 months or more after its launch you don't need to shell out a lot of money.
take the case of N73 Music Edition which was for Rs. 24,000 when launched.
and now it is for Rs. 14,000 which I think , it is a awesome deal