Why Opera is kept aside??

You know that opera is the third(fourth) most popular browser, with fast page loading.
But many website just keep opera aside. They give that their website is best viewed on IE and Firefox but not on Opera. Moreover the classic version of live mail loads for the windows live mail.

Why is this so??
Opera is a good browser but why are peoples neglecting it!!

his shud tell u sumthin - % of people usin opera (me being 1 of them)

What is the trend in browser usage?

O = Opera

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remrow said:
Why is this so. Opera is a good browser but why are people neglecting it!!

honestly, this is a fight club question

I have no idea either, though, I personally prefer FF becoz of the excessive addons.

I love opera too, Its light and fast.
The only part i hate abt it is the non-native look on *nix

R

I tried all of them, but found Opera THE BEST

Opera ftw!

its not a question of which browser is good or bad - if you had taken a look at the table i had given above, it would be evident why designers dont optmise their sites for viewing in opera

opera commads a share of less than 2% as opposed to 25+% commanded by FF and IE

so it is simply uneconomical for the designers to spend their resources on 1.2% of opera users

opera is not yet perfect.
konqueror and firefox FTW till then.

^You mean to say FF is?

rayraven said:
^You mean to say FF is?

actually, no single browser, IE, FF, SF, KQ, OP included, is perfect.
but FF renders every single page I need it to without any hastles, so FF FTW
with opera, I find some pages really screwed.

^True, but blame the designers of the webpage, not opera.
Infact, some sites ,which are made for IE only, render better on Opera than on FF.

MetalheadGautham said:
with opera, I find some pages really screwed.

thats bcos the site designers haven't optimised the page to adhere to opera's page rendering technique

the reason.....only 2% users use opera

How is that possible ? From what I have heard, both Op and FF along qith KQ follow the offitial standards, so they should have no problems with rendering any page

^Browsers do , Webpage designer's dont.
They make it optimal for IE.

rayraven said:
^Browsers do , Webpage designer's dont.
They make it optimal for IE.

in that case, all FireFox compliant pages with "Best Viewed on Firefox" logo must be able to run on opera as well. That happens. But pages not optimised for any browser work on FF but not Opera

^Personally , i havent had any rendering problems with opera,
let alone early gmail, it used to show the basic version and i had to tweak opera to get it show the full version,
But its gone now, opera shows full gmail normally.
Could you point me to a few sites that dont render well?

rayraven said:
^Personally , i havent had any rendering problems with opera,
let alone early gmail, it used to show the basic version and i had to tweak opera to get it show the full version,
But its gone now, opera shows full gmail normally.
Could you point me to a few sites that dont render well?

can't remember any now.
I mainly used to use opera in my pre-linux days.

Me too tried all the browsers...IE 8,FF 4 beta,Safari.......But from the moment i have used Opera, all other browsers are dead for me.
Opera rocks.

for me, rediff mail is a bit screwed up (quick links-addrs book doesnt show up), but make Opera to "mask as IE", it works like a charm :))

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i love the "create search" feature of Opera, now no need to open youtube/wiki or any tool bars... to search for something.

the speed, inbuilt d/l mangr., password wand & bookmark nick names are the things i just love opera.

*vongo.com/this website dosen't works with opera! See what it says when you open it with opera. I am really raged!*bakshi.us/wp-content/lame.jpg

^Crappy hell, A broswer from the stone ages!!,
They support Netscape and IE but not Opera,
IMO ,Those guys are from the stone ages, not Opera.

rayraven said:
Could you point me to a few sites that dont render well?

I got rid of opera because of the problem with AOL
It showed all the parts messed up
the search was 'here' and then the mail button was 'there'
I really couldn't read the page

I got rid of opera because of the problem with AOL
It showed all the parts messed up
the search was 'here' and then the mail button was 'there'
I really couldn't read the page

It is not due to the opera. IT is the AOL not making it compatible with opera.

remrow said:
*vongo.com/this website dosen't works with opera! See what it says when you open it with opera. I am really raged!*bakshi.us/wp-content/lame.jpg

My opera said you can't view this site as you are outside U.S.

Why is this so??
Opera is a good browser but why are peoples neglecting it!!

As an ex-Opera fanboy I can answer this question.
I am ex-opera fanboy because i have stopped being a fanboy, but I still install Opera on every system I come across

The reason many ppl neglect Opera is quite simple -

Because Opera neglects them... See browsers like firefox, mozilla are made for the real web. Many websites have to work around exploders bugs to make sense. Since IE has a massive share and any website must to work on it.
So browsers like firefox, mozilla(konq?) in order to work with the 'real' web mimic IE's behaviour to long extent. Even going as far as to copy IE's bugs.

Opera is different, call them arrogant or rebelous, but they insist on following standards religiously.
Obviously if developra made a lil effort then all sites will work in Opera.. but really y shld they?? I mean I wld love to see them make that effort, but I don't see why shld they..

That is one slick looking page I must say!

*bakshi.us/wp-content/lame.jpg

If u encounter a webstie that doesn't work in Opera, do this -

☺right click > edit site preferences
☺cookies tab > delete all cookies(manually)
☺networlsok tab > select 'mask as firefox'
☺reload

Also Help > report site problem

If u really feel for Opera and hate websites not working in Opera u can email webmasters and ask the to fix their websites and also post in Opera's Open the web forum .

Opera rocks!

Opera is the best browser ever.
We should pity those who don't understand its power.

^^
Correctly said.
I don't mind using IE7 for a few sites that don't go well Opera.

The image is pretty confusing, minimum sys requirement says Opera and browser supported doesn't have it listed. :S

S

^^^ Note that Opera is a red dot (green is equivalent to tick mark, red is equiv to x mark). Does masking as IE or Firefox fix the issue with such websites?

Arun

^^ yes, many times . But u need to remove cookies of the site as well.

I too like Opera but not all codes are com[patible with it, esp. Javascript, AJAX, CSS.

I completely agree, Opera is the best browser out there...
Masking as IE or FF does work in many cases...
But since the last 3-4 days, Opera aint loading pages for me, hence im forced to use FF
The cached images option in Opera is damn good for the bandwidth conscious....

Opera aint loading pages for me, hence im forced to use FF

TOOLS > delete private data.
This will clear your cache.
Also check to see if any proxy are set..

firefox3pre is standards compliant and almost nearing acid3 pass.opera still lacks !

^And under which rock have u been living??

Opera passes the Acid3 test! - the first one to do so

*operawatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/opera-passes-acid3.jpg
In a week or so we shld have a build to play with.. on labs.opera.com

^ah!that's great!still I read acid3--it may be not yet finalized.
ff3pre will not pass acid3 acc to many in ubu forums etc coz acid3 came late while ff3 is nearing release.ff4 may pass(already started)
in my ff3pre,upto 71/100 it reaches

Seems like remrov has old version of Opera, hence it says it dates backs to stone age. In my case, it doesn't say that. It just says incompatible browser.

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chesss said:
TOOLS > delete private data.
This will clear your cache.
Also check to see if any proxy are set..

Hey, I have tried it all.....
I have deleted all private data, n am under no proxy....
I of course know all that, thats the first thing I did....
But yet no result, I was downloading frm RS, n Opera was giving me speeds of 1KBPS or even less!!! on a 512 KbPS connection....

☺right click > edit site preferences
☺cookies tab > delete all cookies(manually)
☺networlsok tab > select 'mask as firefox'
☺reload

i tried it on the hotmail but no luck! The view is same as the opera.
I hope it would work with other sites.

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i sometimes use dial up with is mostly 46.6kbps at night but surfing with opera is really fast. It is really very reliable speed untill and unless you open multiple pages.