Windows 10 Boot Problem

I am using Windows 10 and it takes a lot of time to Boot. It just goes on Black screen and dotted circles keep going in circles for like 30 mins or so and then it takes me to the logon screen.

I have done 5-6 Windows clean installs and found a trend in the problem. After several days of usage or weeks Language bar stops coming at startup in notification area on taskbar and Firewall services will be down at startup. Windows will show pop up notification that my firewall is down. As soon as Language bar stops at startup I know that now PC has gone downhill. I guess windows update might have did it.

I tried to do system restore, I use to keep an Image with me whenever I install but recent 2 fiascoes have troubled me as doing system restore turned into BSOD with CRITICAL PROCESS STOP error. I had to do clean install. Just now I have already reinstalled windows and I am typing this post.

I also tried to pin down which system updates have been installed which might have caused the problem. Like just now I tried to see the root of the problem but to my surprise only Antivirus updates were updated and nothing else.

Is is possible that default antivirus is causing this problem ?
How is it that language bar and firewall stops at the same time ?
Have any other member faced this strange problem as well ?
Is there any solution to this ?

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Which AV are you using?

Which win 10 version are you using(for exact build number type winver in search bar)?

Are you using official/untouched win 10 ISO(verified using checksum) or something else/modified/optimized version?

whitestar_999 said:
Which AV are you using?

Which win 10 version are you using(for exact build number type winver in search bar)?

Are you using official/untouched win 10 ISO(verified using checksum) or something else/modified/optimized version?

I am using default Windows 10 AV. No external AV or any security suite/firewall etc are installed.

Windows 10 1903 (OS Build 18362.175) as of now.

An ahem version with Office 2019 pre-installed. However I have tried untouched as well. Same results.

W

Post a screenshot of crystaldiskinfo free(you can use portable zip version if don't want to install but I recommend installing) to rule out any hdd errors.

whitestar_999 said:
Post a screenshot of crystaldiskinfo free(you can use portable zip version if don't want to install but I recommend installing) to rule out any hdd errors.

Find it below.

W

^^remove the serial number. Everything looks fine though.

Try installing avast free/avira free for few weeks to see if it solves the issue.

whitestar_999 said:
^^remove the serial number. Everything looks fine though.

Try installing avast free/avira free for few weeks to see if it solves the issue.

I did. Lets see what happens.

It happened with me too I guess windows 10 latest updates is causing the problem they are full of bugs slowing down the windows boot

pkkumarcool said:
It happened with me too I guess windows 10 latest updates is causing the problem they are full of bugs slowing down the windows boot

Yes most likely. As of now I have installed Avast and in wait and watch position.

Interesting issue. Besides windows OS updates, there could be a driver installed/updating that could be causing the issue. Remember adding or changing a hardware just before the problem started? Could also be a virus in a pen drive, if of course that is used.
Next time it happens make a record of entries in the 'event viewer'. it could point to the cause of the problem.
You can try windows 8.1 OR windows 10 ltsc version. Both way better than regular win 10.

cute.bandar said:
Interesting issue. Besides windows OS updates, there could be a driver installed/updating that could be causing the issue. Remember adding or changing a hardware just before the problem started? Could also be a virus in a pen drive, if of course that is used.
Next time it happens make a record of entries in the 'event viewer'. it could point to the cause of the problem.
You can try windows 8.1 OR windows 10 ltsc version. Both way better than regular win 10.

No hardware added or removed. Same hardware is used.

I hardly use pen drives. I have everything I need on my PC.

Yes will make record of entries, if that happens that is. So far so good.

If problem persists then that would be my go to option. Thanks a lot for the suggestion.

The thing is that it does not happens with wear and tear, long time running windows etc. Issue has came knocking my door 5 days after new windows install in the past.

It could be because of automatic driver updates via 'windows update'.
Its best to disable this automatic driver updates option via local policy or registry entry modification.

Flash said:
It could be because of automatic driver updates via 'windows update'.
Its best to disable this automatic driver updates option via local policy or registry entry modification.

How to do that ?

You can uninstall latest updates if you boot from Windows 10 DVD and opt for the "repair " option.

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Try this tool(WUMT aka windows update mini tool):
wumt.zip
Set automatic updates to notification mode(uncheck(if not already) incl drivers,incl superseded & offline mode) .Click on circular refresh icon to search for updates manually.

gameranand said:
How to do that ?

Automatic driver updates can cause problems — here's how to turn them off

It seems Microsoft Antivirus was the culprit. As of now the issue has not repeated itself.

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gameranand said:
It seems Microsoft Antivirus was the culprit. As of now the issue has not repeated itself.

Even if Defender in win 10 is now almost as good as paid AVs I still suggest free AV like avira/avast precisely for such reasons.

whitestar_999 said:
Even if Defender in win 10 is now almost as good as paid AVs I still suggest free AV like avira/avast precisely for such reasons.

Aye. Never thought that their own security software would create such problems. A normal person would think that their own applications would be better integrated with their operating system.

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gameranand said:
Aye. Never thought that their own security software would create such problems. A normal person would think that their own applications would be better integrated with their operating system.

Actually it is exactly because of that I don't suggest it.e.g.if avira/avast have issues with latest win 10 update then they either won't work at all(not starting,protection disabled etc) or worst case scenario system won't boot but you will easily know what is wrong & also tools to solve it(some official uninstaller tool or good old safe mode uninstall/cleaner tool). But with defender there won't be such obvious issues but rather such hard to track issues which takes time as well as effort.

whitestar_999 said:
Actually it is exactly because of that I don't suggest it.e.g.if avira/avast have issues with latest win 10 update then they either won't work at all(not starting,protection disabled etc) or worst case scenario system won't boot but you will easily know what is wrong & also tools to solve it(some official uninstaller tool or good old safe mode uninstall/cleaner tool). But with defender there won't be such obvious issues but rather such hard to track issues which takes time as well as effort.

My friend due to this issue, I have installed OS like 5-6 times. Each time praying to God that this time issue will go away.

Can you try with another Win 10 image ? Seems like there is some issue in the source image you are using.

Also, you can check the boot time taken by processes using tools and find the culprit

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Zangetsu said:
Can you try with another Win 10 image ? Seems like there is some issue in the source image you are using.

gameranand said:
An ahem version with Office 2019 pre-installed. However I have tried untouched as well. Same results.