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Windows vs Linux: Power to the user

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staticsid
staticsid Original post #1
Nov 3, 2010 at 6:00 PM
Hello all,

We at Digit are conducting a short survey to get your feedback regarding the everlasting war between the Windows and Linux user camp. 10 minutes of your time is all it will take up.

1. Please do not be bias towards any one operating system when filling out the survey. We want all of you to sit on the fence with this one.

2. Please be specific. For instance, to the question "how long have you been using windows", don't reply "Since i was born". You need to be very specific with your answers.

3. Do not consider any additional software. We want to know about "out-of-the-box" performance.


How long have you been using Linux?

How long have you been using Windows?

Which OS did you begin using first?


Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
6x6
6x6 #2
Nov 3, 2010 at 6:16 PM
your survey seems BIASED towards linux
:-D
C
Nov 3, 2010 at 6:27 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
3 years

How long have you been using Windows?
18 years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows 3.1

im an ubuntu user so my answers will be more specific to it.

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

I found Windows to be a very streamlined installer where user's are expected not to run any other operating system other than Microsoft's. Thats not necessarily a good thing. Ubuntu installed very smoothly as well, but first time users may find it a little baffling incase they don't understand the different file systems.

so the answer is : Windows for beginners, Linux for someone with a better understanding of computers.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Definitely Ubuntu (Linux). Microsoft expects user's to install software after the windows installation which is a painful affair.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

functionality: firefox trumps IE
security: hard to say with the revamped IE9, firefox seems a little less secure.

user friendliness: Firefox is more user friendly

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

Ease of customisation: Ubuntu (Linux) is better. Allows things like "always on top", mouse scroll on window to roll upwards, changing wrkspaces etc.

audio visual appeal: Windows 7 is very impressive

cusomisation available to the OS: Linux wins here. It's open source, do what you want! use software like tweakui and compiz

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

windows applications are available dime a dozen! so its easier to find

software center in ubuntu makes life a whole lot easier. but windows takes this one.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

windows networking s painful when compared to how easy it is in ubuntu. Network printers get automatically installed and samba makes life a whole lot easier.

im not aware of the security on either windows or ubuntu.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)


when it comes to design software like photoshop etc or games, nothing takes the cake quite like windows.

writing code is usually a platform independant action unless you are developing .Net (i think)

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

Both windows and Linux seem the same to me in this respect

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

LINUX. no chance here for windows.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online documentation.

Windows is easier to figure out for me since i have been using it for so long. But now with Ubuntu as my primary OS, i want to make a huge mention about the ubuntu forum which is excellent when it comes to support for problems being faced by user's. I had many issues with ubuntu but they are all resolved thanks to the forum.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

hardware compatability out of the box: windows wins

stability of the OS itself : Linux is much much more stable

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?

i'd like to mention that the only reason Windows is still the most used OS today, it is only because people have a "fear" of the unknown (Linux). Once the initial learning curve has been overcome, the comfort of a user in linux will be the same as a user in Windows. For me personally, im just as comfortable in ubuntu now as i am in windows.


Great questionaire! =D
Gollum
Gollum #4
Nov 3, 2010 at 7:08 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
Less than a year.

How long have you been using Windows?
10years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows95

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):
used windows 95 for educational purpose, later shifted to 98 and used it till xp was released.
1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows. Windows xp to be specific.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux came with the best default apps.
3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Firefox is the best of both os and is default for linux.
4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows xp since i used it more. Linux was a bit confusing.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Windows

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows
7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
windows
8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Windows

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux for removing virus and windows for the rest.
10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Windows
11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Windows98 was a bit buggy but windows xp changed all that. No problems with 7. Never used vista.
12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Most computer games are not released for linux and it is sometimes difficult to find device drivers for specific hardware for linux os.
Liverpool_fan
Nov 3, 2010 at 7:40 PM
Hello all,
How long have you been using Linux?
First time I used Linux was Red Hat Linux 8.0 in mid 2004. However I moved fully to Linux with Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) in November 2006.

How long have you been using Windows?
The first time I used Windows was in 1996, Windows 3.1 on a school lab.
However for my own desktop, Windows 98 was the one I used in August 2000.

Which OS did you begin using first?
In this order:

Windows
BeOS
Linux


1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Which distro do you mean by installing? Various Linux distributions are there with variable scope of ease of installation.
Since you are comparing Linux with Windows, I would assume an easy to use distro like Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Mandriva. In that case I find Ubuntu/Linux Mint installer as the best as it is Live CD based installation, very straightforward and intuitive. Also I can browse the web while the installation is taking place. Mandriva's installer is fine too (Non-Live CD), as each step is straightforward.
Windows installer on the other hand is HORRIBLE. It wipes out the boot loader of a previously installed Linux OS. Secondly in case of Win 7 installer, the initial screen resolution is horrible and the installer at times is confusing as well.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Ubuntu. It has a good browser called Firefox, a PDF reader, Bitorrent Client, Office suite, Photo Manager, which serve very well. Windows on the other falls way behind.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Ubuntu. Firefox is more functional (even without add-ons) than Internet Explorer, more user friendly, is as secure as Internet Explorer if not more.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Linux. There is no comparison here. In terms of customization, any Linux distro blows away Windows, as we get the choice of desktop environments, Windows managers, and customization in terms of widgets and panels.
Distros like Ubuntu also come with a good variety of themes in default install, Windows on the other hand can only change colour scheme, etc.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Ubuntu/Linux. Ubuntu has Ubuntu Software Center which provides a one stop solution for finding and installing software. The applications installed are installed from the repository which make them eligible for the updates along with core OS components. In Windows, we have to search, download, execute and what not.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Linux. Regarding Networking it's highly subjective. But still it meets my needs better as I require SSH, and openssh, apache are command(s)/click(s) away from installation.
In terms of printing, Linux works better for me as I have an HP printer and it just plugs and plays. Default Ubuntu also has a scanning app(my printer is an MFD). In Windows, it wasn't that convenient.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
For Programming (except Windows RAD), Linux is a better solution. However for RAD of .NET applications, you can install Visual Studio for Windows which can be compelling for this purpose.
In terms of Writing, Graphics design, Windows has better 3rd part support, with Adobe, Corel, etc.
Windows edges out here due to third party support.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Linux. Supports both its own native file systems and Windows File systems like NTFS/FAT. While Windows Explorer is slightly more compelling than Nautilus, however the fact that I use Linux Native partitions which are not supported in Windows making file management a no job in Windows.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
ext4 doesn't need defragmenting, and Linux doesn't have any malware problem particularly if you pay attention. Backing up in Windows is probably easier due to third party support.
However Linux slightly edges out here.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Linux. Bold part explains.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
For me both Linux and Windows are stable, and all my hardware works. So let it be a tie here.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
If you are a gamer, you have no choice but to stick with Windows. Additionally third party support from companies like Adobe, Corel, etc. as well as some mature products by MS make Windows an option for a lot of people.
L
Nov 3, 2010 at 8:31 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
12 years Started with redhat 5.2
How long have you been using Windows?
15 years
Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows3.1

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows wins here .
2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux
3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality
2.security once it was Linux but not there is not much difference.
3.user-friendliness FF is on both

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows .
5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Windows.
6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows
Linux is good too if u can find the drivers
7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Programming on Windows is easy
8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Same on both
9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
If the system is infected then on windows its easier to remove viruses.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
windows
11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
cpu usage: same on both
peripheral hardware compatibility: windows
software and OS freezing :depends upon the version of the OS
crashing:depends upon the version of the OS
locking-up:depends upon the version of the OS
hardware compatibility: Windows
12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Linux needs better sound support , not breaking compatibility with every new release and a uniform ABI and API .
skeletor
Nov 3, 2010 at 8:50 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
I've been using Linux since 2006. I started off with Arch Linux straight away and then to Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn."

How long have you been using Windows?
I started off with Windows 98 when I got my computer in 2002.

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows 98.

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Ubuntu was much easier to install for me.


2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Over the period of time, Linux distributions have provided best default programs post installation. In Windows, you have to manually install the necessary things.


3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux obviously. One word Firefox.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Not a fan of customization. I prefer an Operating System's default skin and default wallapaper.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Earlier it was Windows, now Ubuntu edges it for me.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Everything works out of the box in Ubuntu these days. With Arch Linux, it is a question of doing things your own way so I'm keeping that context away.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Programming: Linux
Graphic Design: Windows

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Linux.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online documentation.
After you go through the learning curves of both the Operating Systems, you always know what you have to do. This is a tie.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux has always been more stable for me.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Ubuntu has reached a point where it can be easily used as a home Operating System - much better "out of the box" performance than Windows.
Liverpool_fan
Nov 3, 2010 at 9:25 PM
1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows. Windows xp to be specific.

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows wins here .

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Linux needs better sound support , not breaking compatibility with every new release and a uniform ABI and API .

I would like to see some perspective and elaboration on these points. I am bit curious on how Windows installer is easier and elaboration of the part in bold (unless your point about API is regarding sound only, to which I will agree).
Gollum
Gollum #9
Nov 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM
I would like to see some perspective and elaboration on these points. I am bit curious on how Windows installer is easier and elaboration of the part in bold (unless your point about API is regarding sound only, to which I will agree).
when i installed win xp i didn't know how to install xp or an operating system in general. And i had no problem installing it.
L
Nov 3, 2010 at 11:59 PM
I would like to see some perspective and elaboration on these points. I am bit curious on how Windows installer is easier and elaboration of the part in bold (unless your point about API is regarding sound only, to which I will agree).
i dont know i always found windows easy to install its just point and click

as a device and embedded programmer the 6th month release cycle of linux is a sure head ache ,
regarding the API thing ,they no standard API for linux
Maverick340
Nov 4, 2010 at 1:36 AM
How long have you been using Linux?
2years

How long have you been using Windows?
6 years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows 95

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
When i installed windows i was new to computers per say. So it took me a while to figure out. By the time i got to using linux i was much more aware, it was also better documented. I cant give a proper answer

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux. Evertyhing you need is there right after isntallation. With windows,there is a post set up time of at least half an hour. Lesser in 7, since the drivers are pr installed but still its a pain.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Ubuntu Linux comes by default with Firefox which is amazing to use, fast, secure and easy

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Customization : Linux

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Linux! The software center makes it so easy to isntall application, no more wading though a website finding the download link, saving the exe blah blah

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Linux and Windows equally. Except on windows you need to install 400mb worth HP Printer driver junk which will start on boot everytime

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Graphic design, 3d modelling etc : Windows. Unmatched simply because the alternative tools dont match up and the adobe suite is not there on Linux
Otherwise for daily task like office : Linux since office tools are pre installed


8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Pretty much the same.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Haha! No malware or virus on Linux. Windows users give me thier pendrives to pick and weed out malware with ease. Hello there OLOLO.exe :)


10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Linux, amazing community. Man page for everything.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Windows tends to be more compatible with tablets , again due to software being built for it.
Linux is solid as rock, no hanging or crashing for me in ages. OS freezing is non existent.



12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Really wish top companies start proting tools like Adobe Suite to linux. Give people a choice, c'mon !
Krow
Krow #12
Nov 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM
How long have you been using Linux?
1 year

How long have you been using Windows?
11 years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows. Obvious, isn’t it?

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Linux, because I installed it inside windows, without a hitch. Haven’t yet installed linux as the base OS.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux (Mint, especially). I need a software set or a Digit DVD before I can do anything on Windows, not so in Linux.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux, most definitely. Firefox (Lin) is waaaaaay better than IE (Win) in all three aspects.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Linux. Compiz fusion is simply unbeatable. The default music and layout is more soothing in Linux (Mint and Ubuntu).

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Linux. The repository has almost all the software one needs and it auto installs too. The problem is that one is very used to the Windows way of doing things. Once we keep an open mind, the Linux way is actually easier. With newer iterations of Linux, it has actually become easier to install .deb, .run packages too. Now that I look back, it took me longer to learn how to install software in windows than to figure out how to do that in Windows.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Never setup networked devices in either OS.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
If Photoshop, Illustrator, QuarkXPress, InDesign, CorelDRAW, etc. had a linux version, I would not use Windows. It is very discriminatory that these softwares are developed for Windows and Mac, but not for Linux.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
I guess both are pretty much on par here.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux for security. Windows is very problematic there. For others, I think the default options in Windows are not that good. We need third party softwares like CCleaner.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Windows. Larger user base, larger support. Google helps. But, whenever I posted any query about Linux on forums, I got the required answers. Never need to post for Windows.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
We need all Windows games on Linux!!!
W
way2jatin #13
Nov 4, 2010 at 11:07 AM
the main advantage agaisnt linux is that we dont need to install any of the additional software

Like in case of windows we dont get MS Office or Nero or any messenger but in linux we get Open office, Pidgin and Brasero DVD Burner

Secondly we see that linux is fast as compared to Windows
Kl@w-24
Kl@w-24 #14
Nov 4, 2010 at 10:21 PM
How long have you been using Linux?

I'm not a regular Linux user but I use Linux on an on-off basis. My first experience with Linux was back in 2005. Since then, I try out a new distro occasionally but when the novelty value wears off, I switch back to my platform of choice.


How long have you been using Windows?

I have been using Windows since I first started using a computer. My earliest memory of a Windows system dates back to 1997 when we were taught the basics of Windows 95 in school.

Which OS did you begin using first?

Windows 95. Although my home computer came with Windows 98 SE pre-installed.

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

Windows. My first attempt at a Windows installation was with Windows 2000 Professional, in 2002. The installation was straightforward. A novice like me was able to get it up and running.

My experience with Linux wasn't that great. As a novice, I was lost in the partitioning options and when I did get around to installing it, I lost my Windows bootloader since I had not specifically added its entry.

Although I must admit, things have changed dramatically regarding Linux installations. Still, I feel Windows installs are simpler.


2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Linux. No contest. Select the right packages and you're good to go.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

Linux again. Firefox owns Windows' default Internet Explorer.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

Windows wins here. The amount of customization resources available for Windows is simply mind-boggling. Add thousands of new themes, make it look like a Mac or even a Linux distro. Add a sidebar, gadgets, docks, fences. It's all possible.

With the arrival of Windows 7 the user interface has become fresher and friendlier (is that a word?) than ever before.


5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

Finding the software you need is a cinch with Windows. Linux has that repository, but the choices available to a Windows user are almost limitless. You can get at least 3-5 programs that cater to a single requirement, ranging from paid to shareware to freeware.

Installation is as simple as Next, Next, Finish in Windows. Getting the right package, dependencies etc. is something I found confusing in Linux. A novice may download the thing, but may not have enough patience to actually learn how to install it.


6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

My Windows system has been compromised a few times, so I can't vouch for its security. Linux has always won the security battle and I can't prove otherwise. Things might have improved now with Windows Defender being installed by default, but I'm not so sure.

Setting up a LAN was equally simple in both environments. I haven't tried installing a printer, though.


7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

For graphical designing stuff, Windows wins comfortably. Linux alternatives just haven't evolved to that level where they can pose a threat to giants like Adobe and Quark.

Windows offers nothing out of the box to a programmer, except the humble notepad. Linux comes with a lot of resources by default but you can easily build a development system on Windows by installing some freeware. If we talk about the big two of Java and .Net, you can write applications for both these platforms in Windows.


8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

Windows. More specifically, Windows 7 with its Libraries.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

Lots of viruses and anti-viruses for Windows. I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing. But if your computer gets infected, most likely there will be a removal tool out there.
Windows wins in the defrag, backup and cleanup stakes. It's all built-in and easy to use. Easy Transfer is another one.


10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.

There may be a huge Linux and OSS community but the help available for Windows problems is great. Most of the times a simple googling of the error message leads you to the cause, solution and avoidance tactics for that problem. The in-built help & support center is also good for learning about the OS and common errors.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

Hardware compatibility and driver availability - Windows. SuSE Linux failed to recognize my display adapter.
My Windows system doesn't crash on me unless I do something stupid. So yeah, it's pretty stable.


12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?

For gaming, Windows rules. No contest.

The devil is not so black as he is painted. Windows still remains a competent and robust computing platform. There are enough freeware and OSS alternatives for Windows too. And that is the whole point - choices.

  • PS: I'm not a Windows fanboy, nor a Linux hater. I'm just an ordinary PC user who spoke from his experience. :p
Faun
Faun #15
Nov 5, 2010 at 12:32 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
5+ years

How long have you been using Windows?
8+ years

Which OS did you begin using first?
DOS then Win 98

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows was easier but now Linux is much easier.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Linux

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Windows previously but now it's Linux

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Both come close but Windows wins for a starter

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Linux but if you are an artist then Windows.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Linux.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Linux.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux.


12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Gaming is for Windows.
A
Nov 5, 2010 at 4:28 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
4+ years

How long have you been using Windows?
10+ years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Win 98


1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Linux because of repositories.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
for security Linux, but for others Windows

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Both

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Linux

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Windows

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Although at present Linux lacks in customization and online support available but still it is ahead of Windows in stability, security etc.(which are of prime importance).
Revolution
Nov 6, 2010 at 5:48 AM
I don't know how to use Linux.....:(
All I can say that Windows is very very easy to learn than Linux.....
skeletor
skeletor #18
Nov 6, 2010 at 1:52 PM
I don't know how to use Linux.....:(
All I can say that Windows is very very easy to learn than Linux.....
No, it isn't the case.

You have used Windows all your life and never bothered to give Linux a try it deserves. A little different way of doing things doesn't translate into X being easier than Y. Ease is more related to usability.
W
way2jatin #19
Nov 6, 2010 at 11:36 PM
No, it isn't the case.

You have used Windows all your life and never bothered to give Linux a try it deserves. A little different way of doing things doesn't translate into X being easier than Y. Ease is more related to usability.

I totally agree with you
L
Nov 7, 2010 at 12:23 AM
No, it isn't the case.

You have used Windows all your life and never bothered to give Linux a try it deserves. A little different way of doing things doesn't translate into X being easier than Y. Ease is more related to usability.
yes it does
Desmond
Desmond #21
Nov 7, 2010 at 11:41 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
4 years
How long have you been using Windows?
12 years
Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows 3.1

Objectives

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows (took some time to get a hang of linux installation)
2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux (Depends on distro, but never usually disappointed)
3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
This would obviously be FireFox on Linux
4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows (any version), though I think Linux is equally easy.
5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
WINDOWS, installing in Linux is a pain in the ***, took me a week to figure out how to install from Tarballs, also, did'nt have net then to install from apt
6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Ease of setting up : Windows. Never tried networking in Linux
7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Only done all of these properly in Windows. Mostly only done Java/C programming in Linux (Ubuntu mainly)
8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Linux is much better in this area
9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Only Windows has problems with malware, never had any malware problem with Linux
10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Both
11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Windows most stable (mainly due to availability of drivers), Linux hardly detects my modem, let alone install it
12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Linux is better when it comes to security and stability, providing for a robust development and enterprise platform. However, it is somewhat weaker when it comes to user-friendliness. Windows is commonplace, but falls weak for security and Virus/malware problems, requiring constant maintainence.
Liverpool_fan
Nov 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM
5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
WINDOWS, installing in Linux is a pain in the ***, took me a week to figure out how to install from Tarballs, also, did'nt have net then to install from apt
You don't need to use tarballs.
If you want to install on an offline PC - Keryx Project|Updates for offline Linux users
Just a tip
S
sakumar79 #23
Nov 9, 2010 at 9:12 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
On and off since 1997

How long have you been using Windows?
From the days of Windows3.1

Which OS did you begin using first?
DOS

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):
1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Both were relatively easy... I have installed Linux both with text-based UI and Graphical interface... Overall, Windows is easier... Two minuses for Windows are 1. that it requires some inputs in the middle of installation rather than keeping it to the start or the end, and 2. there are no ways to tweak the installation from the original installation disc - options like nLite not considered...Linux on the other hand gets most of the input at the initial stage and then starts installation... And with advanced options, I can even setup the packages to install and the ones to avoid...
But ease of use wise, Windows installation experience is still better

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Some with Windows (basic notepad, calculator, wmp, Paint etc), some with linux (Openoffice, multiple desktops, etc)...

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
For me, Opera is the browser of choice... Second is Chrome... Dont like firefox very much, and use IE to browse the few IE-specific sites... So, default browser wise, neither actually (unless you consider a custom Linux build with opera pre-installed and set as default; but of course that would be equivalent to a nLite customised Windows installation with opera installed by default... So, effectively, NEITHER... To me, the main reason I hate firefox is that I need to have a handful of add-ons for doing many of the things I need to do... I work with many computers and managing addons for each computer is a headache... I bear with IE because it gets the job done even if it is not as efficient as Opera...

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows without a doubt...

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Both are relatively easy... In linux, if the program is within the distros repository, then it is easy, but if not, programs are basically the same - search and find, download and install...

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows... While Windows implementations leads to some minor problems once in a while, it is easier to setup and maintain for LAN, printer, etc...

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Windows... For programming ease, there is nothing like Visual Studio Express Edition... Free to use and very easy to program... For writing, I use OpenOffice, so it doesnt matter whether Windows or Linux is the platform... For many others, I am dependant on Windows as there are no Linux alternative...

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Both are relatively equal...

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
For clearing viruses and defragmentation Linux is better.
Never had to clear disk space as I regularly remove old data, so cannot commend...
Backup tools available with third party vendors for Windows are better... Havent used default tools of Linux or Windows.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Windows... Most of the problems solved by Googling, but with Linux, the percentage of problems solved by googling and rtfm is less...

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
windows - OS freezing out of the box is rare in both, hardware compatibility with built-in drivers is equal but many hardware are provided with windows drivers only... For cpu usage, havent checked strenuously... Out of box cpu usage in both windows and Linux is similar for same hardware and when similar versions are used (older OS with older hardware, etc)...

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
I installed Linux Mint for my uncle who frequently had virus problems in his XP system... He used it for a month but could not use the webcam due to lack of drivers (local make)... So, for skype, he used windows... At next system crash, he did not reinstall Linux - the local service engineer did not have necessary skills for reinstalling/recovering Linux... The end user is finding Linux more and more user-friendly, but corporations providing only Windows drivers is still a major cause of concern for Linux adoption at a much larger scale...

Additionally, many field specialised domains have Windows-only software which makes people in such fields have no option but to stay with Windows...

Finally, I feel that the "Out Of The Box experience" is overhyped... Whether I use Windows or Linux, I install the software I want and remove the ones I dont... Only the end product experience matters... For me, Windows still beats Linux... But Linux is catching... It still needs to address three main focus issues - better driver compatibility, gaming and better commercial software for all fields...

Arun
skeletor
skeletor #24
Nov 9, 2010 at 9:21 PM
But Linux is catching... It still needs to address three main focus issues - better driver compatibility, gaming and better commercial software for all fields...
I appreciate your experience which you have shared in your post. But these I feel are more in the hands of developers.

For example, I bought a Canon scanner and Canon provides ZERO support for Linux. Surely not Linux's fault. Games, again it is in the hands of developers. Although we are optimistic about Steam for Linux. With OpenGL rendered Valve games already available for Mac OS X, I think they aren't far away from Linux.
6x6
6x6 #25
Nov 9, 2010 at 9:46 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
- 4 years

How long have you been using Windows?
- 10 years

Which OS did you begin using first?
- windows 98

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
- both are more or less same.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
-Linux

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality - IE6 is crap, IE8 is OK
2.security - I feel Linux is better
3.user-friendliness - cant say, both are more or less same.



4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
- both are more or less same.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
- Linux

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
- both are more or less same. in Linux we dont need driver cds

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
- cant say

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
- both are more or less same.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
- Linux

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online documentation.
- Linux

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
- Linux

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
- some websites dont work in Linux,
- some cds (specially educational cds given with children books having exe files) dont work in Linux
- most of the games dont work in Linux
- special updating software like - nokia / SE mobile software updater does not work in Linux
skeletor
skeletor #26
Nov 9, 2010 at 10:05 PM
- some websites dont work in Linux,
Web devs are to be blamed. :(
- some cds (specially educational cds given with children books having exe files) dont work in Linux
Can't comment.
- most of the games dont work in Linux
Linux games work on Linux. :)
- special updating software like - nokia / SE mobile software updater does not work in Linux
Hardware vendors are to be blamed for not giving their Linux users such options. :(
papul1993
papul1993 #27
Nov 9, 2010 at 10:39 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
-->3 years

How long have you been using Windows?
--> 8years

Which OS did you begin using first?
--> Windows 98

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
--> Linux distros like ubuntu, linux mint are easier to install than Windows OS but the same can't be said about distros like Archlinux , Gentoo etc.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
--> Linux Mint.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
-->Almost all Linux distros provide firefox as the default web browser.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
--> Linux Mint

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
--> Linux. New and updated software are avalable in the repos that are just a command away from being installed on your system.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
--> I haven't yet tried connect a network printer and setting up a wireless network so in my opinion both Windows and Linux are almost same in this regard. But in Linux distros like ubuntu or linux mint you are generally provided with the network manager applet which make configuring networks a breeze.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
--> Linux is better suited for programming. But in case of work like photo editing, video/audio editing, 3d animation etc Windows is better suited because top of the line softwares for these kind of jobs are generally made for Windows OS.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
--> IMO both Windows and linux are equal in this case

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
--> Linux!! It doesn't get those stupid windows viruses.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
--> Linux. It has a good community of people that help on forums, IRC channels etc.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
--> Windows has better hardware compatibly at this moment but I am sure this will change soon.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
--> Gaming. Windows definately wins in this case.
S
sakumar79 #28
Nov 10, 2010 at 7:49 AM
@ico, in many Windows vs Linux comparisons, I am noticing this tendency among Linux supporters... When someone says that Linux needs to catch up on hardware support, Linux fans mention that it is not Linux's fault but hardware manufacturers fault for not providing it... But then, they go out to point that many tools like OpenOffice, etc are pre-bundled with Linux but not with Windows as an advantage... If Windows were to bundle software, there would be lot of Anti Trust actions (remember the hoopla when Windows Vista/7 started a different security mechanism? and remember IE and WMP cases in Europe?)... This is "not our problem" the Linux supporters say... If we look at it impartially, if it is not their problem and the point is to be considered for comparing Lin and Win, then it is not the Windows users problem that hardware vendors do not give Linux drivers and that point should be considered also...

IMHO, if we are comparing Linux vs Windows, both points HAVE to be considered because we are to look at it impartially from the end user point of view where the end user will be affected by these points which may become an issue to him... And here, it is to be noted that the problem in Windows is more easily solved (getting third party software) than some of the Linux problems (hardware support)... But should be noted that Windows problems may be universal (in all cases) whereas Linux problems are case-specific (incompatibility with some hardware)

Arun
S
Nov 10, 2010 at 10:04 PM
How long have you been using Linux?

On and off since 2007. So, roughly 3 years.

How long have you been using Windows?

9 years.

Which OS did you begin using first?

Microsoft Windows 98.

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

Windows. Easy partitioning. The entire process of installing Linux is pretty simple except partitioning, for some.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Linux. No two ways about that. A chat application, web browser, image editing software and anything else you would want for an OS to have right out of the box.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

Linux (Ubuntu). Mozilla firefox is fully functional, very secure and user-friendly.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

Linux is easier to customize and there are a lot of themes out there but out of the box, Windows 7 looks much better and more polished. So, for customization it is Linux but for visual appeal it's Windows.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

I haven't used many other distros except Ubuntu. Synaptic Manager is very easy to use and installing new apps doesn't take much effort. And 'apt-get' is always there for the more geeky users. But installing the apps which are not available in the Synaptic Manager is a chore. Compiling and all isn't my cup of tea. Installing thrid party apps for Windows seems easier. I would say that for me, both operating systems tie in this department.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

Security - Linux

Setup(Wireless) - Windows. What can I say, my Wi-Fi dongle doesn't work with Linux.

Printer - Windows.

Functionality - Windows.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

Not much into programming or designing, so I wouldn't say anything here.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

I am used to the way Windows handles files. I'll go with Windows here. Linux is pretty good too.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

Linux. Doesn't need an anti-virus, defragmenting or any other of that stuff. Totally robust when it comes to security.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.

Both.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

Windows 7 for me.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?

Well, both operating systems are great but as I'm a gamer, Windows is an indispensible part of my life. I dual boot Windows and Linux and I like both of them. I don't really divide tasks between the two operating systems. Sometimes I go weeks without using Windows, the other times Linux is never booted for months. Just depends on the mood.
papul1993
papul1993 #30
Nov 10, 2010 at 10:57 PM
Linux is easier to customize and there are a lot of themes out there but out of the box, Windows 7 looks much better and more polished. So, for customization it is Linux but for visual appeal it's Windows.

tell me, have you used KDE? It very much windows like. Polished. And many of its features were copied and used in Windows 7, like windows maximizing when dragged to the top of the screen etc.
S
Nov 10, 2010 at 11:02 PM
No, last time I used KDE was in early 2009. Don't remember much. I just posted my opinions. I'm not imposing them on anyone.
vamsi_krishna
Nov 11, 2010 at 3:00 AM
How long have you been using Linux?

2007 (Fedora)

How long have you been using Windows?

In school.It was in 2001. So, 9 Years.

Which OS did you begin using first?

Windows 98


Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

Except the partitioning part, Linux was pretty easy. And, quick as well.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Linux distros all the way. But There is media player... but only OGG support. Most of the collection was in MP3. And same is with videos.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?


Linux. But before firefox release(2004), I don't know how better other browsers was than IE5,6

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

If I was posting this a day before. i would have said Windows. But today, I realized how beautiful Linux(ubuntu) will look after 1 hour time investment.

Ubutnu.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

Windows. It is not a easy task to install programs in Linux atleast for newbies in this area. I'm still scratching my head to figure out sudo commands. Where as installation in windows environment was pretty easy.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and
functionality.


I'm using ubuntu now. And, it is a bit flexible than windows LAN setup. With features like "connect automatically", etc.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)


I will go with Windows in this department. It might be because i was taught in windows environment and there are wide variety of tools available for gfx design, etc. In windows environment.


8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.


I will say I find Windows much more organized. It might be just me. But, searching files, finding files in a folder was easy for me in windows. It might be because I spent such a long time in there.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

I don't know if I ever need a AV suite when I'm in linux. And, Internet Security suits to warn about malicious websites, are present in windows, which will guarantee on line security, but linux has no comprehensive IS suits.. So, its a tough call. If i have to make a choice, i will go with Linux.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.


Windows. Just because I know pretty much about it. But Linux is a oblivion for me. So, i have to try myself upside down to solve a problem. And as most of the troubleshooting is command line based in linux, it is a bit hard. Where as in windows, it isn't that much.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

Linux. Every time I un installed my linux operating system, it was just because..reasons like "enough, we install some other time", "OMG! I ran out of space to install games", etc. But where as when i remove windows..it's because of crashes, issues with softwares, drivers, BSOD, slow downs, clutter, etc.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?[/QUOTE]


Both have their own advantages and dis advantages. At the end of the day, what one should ask oneself is. "what do I want" Is it gaming? Surfing? Graphics Design? Web design?, etc and should go with the OS which satisfies their needs. Windows is good for some reasons and bad for some, same is with Linux. And, some of them say people don't go with linux because they don't know about it.. I don't agree with this at all. It might be because of the games or the tools that aren't available to them in Linux. So, please make a note of this.
mayur gaikwad
Nov 16, 2010 at 8:54 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
2 years

How long have you been using Windows?
10 years

Which OS did you begin using first?
DOS


Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

First I installed Windows 98 found it quite difficult for 1st time.I installed Ubuntu (my personal favorite) some 3 yrs ago when I was beginner to Linux.
Found the installer damn easy when you experiment on Windows installing.



2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Ubuntu 10.10 my all time favorite and its Ubuntu Software Center.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

functionality: Firefox trumps IE
security: I prefer Firefox for its adblocking features

user friendliness: Firefox is more user friendly

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

Ease of customization: Ubuntu is better.

audio visual appeal: Windows 7 is very good but Ubuntu 10.10 also kicks butt.

customization available to the OS: Linux got it here.OPEN SOURCE!!! Ubuntu Tweak etc are damn good.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

Windows got easy with double click.Ubuntu Software Center now available wins here with variety.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

Windows is pain in ass with security,Ubuntu makes it quite tough.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

Windows is Emperor in this field.Programming,Gaming and Designing are damn easy with Windows.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

Ubuntu is quite handy in file management

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

Ubuntu finally scores 10 on 10 ,no viruses(if present i m unaware),no ****ing defragmentation.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online documentation.

Windows is quite easy to troubleshoot will Ubuntu requires deep knowledge of libraries.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

hardware compatibility out of the box: Windows got it but Ubuntu making Steady progress

stability of the OS itself : Linux is much much more stable & no blue screen till now

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?

Windows is used due to easiness and much more due to PIRACY .Only legitimate I have seen are bundled with laps.Awareness of Linux is much less even Government promotes Windows by MS-CIT.So when people will realize LINUX as safe,secure,handy and free OS they will surely adopt it as their default OS.
A
Nov 17, 2010 at 10:53 AM
How long have you been using Linux?
Over an year now. I am the vice-president of linux club at my college

How long have you been using Windows?
1998-2005 - at school only
2005-2008 - windows xp at home


Which OS did you begin using first?
at school it was MS-DOS at first - then Win 98
properly at home - started with XP


Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Both were equally simpler because. I think I tried to installed FreeBSD or Ubuntu for the first time in 2007. Installed successfully but didn't use it then

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Mandriva 2009 was the first distro to stay on my laptop for long.. It came with pretty much everything I needed. Where as it took me whole day to confiture Windows when I reinstalled it.
All distributions of linux offer most of the softwares one needs.


3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
By the time I had access to Internet on my system I was already fond of firefox ... so I liked it when I found it to be the default on Linux.
But frankly I didn't every try to test the browser - I like firefox .. I use it :)


4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows does offer customisation but one can customize to a very great extent on gnome and KDE

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
when I was a newbie to linux - everything about windows was easy-peasy
after becoming familiar with linux and getting it setup properly
finding - easy and free on Linux
installing - from repository on Linux - very easy
- from source code - slightly difficult

without Internet - very difficult for linux - removing dependencies is impossible
on windows without internet - one can find Softwares on Digit's DVDs too



6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
never tried that stuff on windows - found it to be simple on linux

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
I participate in programming competitions - and am interested in coding in C/C++
so it was only after I came to linux and found about gcc that I came to know that Turbo C++ was outdated and C++ was way more than what I knew.


8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
I find both to be same

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux - frankly never installed any antivirus suite

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
didn't require such help for windows - by the time I used windows - I had no interenet.
On Linux - found it to be great to find so many people to help me


11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Windows was stable - didn't require any configuring to make hardware work.
But once I got things working on my new laptop with linux - its never been ever looking back.


12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Windows a good OS but I find Linux to be better. Its only because of having been taught (literally in schools) to use Windows that people find it difficult to use Linux. It was extremely difficult for me to get linux up and running on my new Laptop ( no drivers for new hardware). Once that was solved - I seldom boot into my Win7 partition.
Applications that I use often and find better in comparison
  • GCC - programming
  • firefox - browsing
  • emacs - text editing
  • vlc - music and video
  • scribus - document editing
C
Nov 18, 2010 at 3:43 PM
Windows vs Linux: Discussion from feedback thread

How long have you been using Linux?

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows. Obvious, isn’t it?

Which version of Windows did you begin using?

the main advantage agaisnt linux is that we dont need to install any of the additional software

Like in case of windows we dont get MS Office or Nero or any messenger but in linux we get Open office, Pidgin and Brasero DVD Burner

Secondly we see that linux is fast as compared to Windows

You have given your two cents ... but where are your answers to the questionnaire?

No, it isn't the case.

You have used Windows all your life and never bothered to give Linux a try it deserves. A little different way of doing things doesn't translate into X being easier than Y. Ease is more related to usability.

abslutely right ... narrow minded individual..
Rahim
Rahim #36
Nov 18, 2010 at 11:07 PM
Queries from staticsid answered without bias by Rahim
How long have you been using Linux?
3-4 Years (cant rmember the exact year)

How long have you been using Windows?
7 Years

Which OS did you begin using first?
MS Windows Me

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows is like Israel of OS, kicking out others rather than accomodating other OS. I choose Linux here.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Windows(vanilla) cannot hold a light to Linux. Linux promises you a complater Desktop while Windows provide only the OS.

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux and the browser would be Firefox.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Linux all the way.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Both OS provides easy way of installing the applications.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows is easier to setup Networking.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Windows considering that professional application are available only on that platform.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Here a Desktop Environment like KDE kicks Windows where it hurts.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux and it is free of viruses and malwares.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Hmm,,,,this is a tough one. I cant answer this one.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
Linux is not terminal-only OS for geeks with long hair and bad hygiene.
Linux is not 2nd grade OS as most of Windows fanboys try to label this wonderful OS.
desiibond
desiibond #37
Nov 20, 2010 at 11:43 AM
1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

Windows 7

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Ubuntu and SuSe


3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

firefix bundled with linux is far better in every feature compared to IE8. IE9 should turn the scales in windows favour.


4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

definitely linux.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

thanks to ununtu software centre, i can now do one click software installation and it alos holds huge repository of softwares, making it very easy when compared to winodws s/w install.


6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

windows is still the best os when it comes to productivity and plug-n-play. programminag and 3d design are areas where windows lead by a mile.


8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

windows 7.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

linux. virus is virtually non existant, the amount of free tools for disc mgmt make linux a clutter free os.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.

definigtely linux.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

linux. but windows hass light edge in hardware compatibility.

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?
C
Nov 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM
desiibond : you failed to report your experience in using the above mentioned OSs ... look to the first 3 questions ..
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sakumar79 #39
Nov 20, 2010 at 6:11 PM
I think all of us (including the OP, myself and the rest of us who have posted) have gotten too confused... Firstly, we talk about OOBE (Out of Box experience)... Then, if anybody (some of the posters, including myself) has mentioned that productivity and programming wise, Windows is better because of better software availability, there is a inconsistency because this will not be OOBE...

IMHO, there is no point going into OOBE... There are two types of people that are the majority of computer users - those who can do basic install, etc themselves, and those who cannot... The third type, which probably a lot of digitians are, the kind who can do more than just the basic install - those who can trouble shoot, tinker, etc...- this type is a minority...

But, whatever the target type of people this survey is aimed at, there is no sense comparing OOBE experience because (atleast almost) nobody using Windows uses it without installing additional software... For the average home user, many of the Linux distros install all that are needed for their daily use including office suite, etc... So, for Linux, since it is open source and free, it is possible for people to be satisfied with OOBE...

But just imagine what would happen if Windows started bundling a costlier version of Windows OS - say a Windows Office Edition - in which the MS Office suite is preinstalled... Can you imagine the number of anti-Trust lawsuits that would be piled up against them?

Hence, IMHO, it is not possible for Windows to provide the same OOBE as Linux, but that should not be the issue, because the main comparison should lie in the end experience...

This is where the three types of people will have different experience, and this grouping should be clearly identified through the answers and end user experience for both OSes should be compared accordingly for each type separately...

Arun
C
Nov 20, 2010 at 6:56 PM
But just imagine what would happen if Windows started bundling a costlier version of Windows OS - say a Windows Office Edition - in which the MS Office suite is preinstalled... Can you imagine the number of anti-Trust lawsuits that would be piled up against them?

I see what you mean bu would I be right in saying that the anti-trust case was because Microsoft din't allow ofr the uninstallaion of software like IE and WMP that came bundled with Windows?
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sakumar79 #41
Nov 20, 2010 at 8:27 PM
What is the need to uninstall IE or WMP when you can install third party software and set it as default? How does it affect the end user whether IE/WMP stays installed or not?

Arun
C
Nov 20, 2010 at 8:31 PM
What is the need to uninstall IE or WMP when you can install third party software and set it as default? How does it affect the end user whether IE/WMP stays installed or not?

Arun

You are absolutely right it does not affect the user in any way. I was merely enqiring if that was the subject of debate when the EU had a problem with MS.
Liverpool_fan
Nov 22, 2010 at 2:02 PM
What is the need to uninstall IE or WMP when you can install third party software and set it as default? How does it affect the end user whether IE/WMP stays installed or not?

Arun
You are thinking very narrowly as only in End User perspective.
As far as Internet Explorer was concerned, it had its own implementation of web standards, and as a result making of web pages for IE broke compatibility with other browsers. And since Internet Explorer is almost a standard just due to the fact it is bundled with Windows, it was a huge disadvantage for other browser vendors not to mention the headache for web developers. IE9 will hopefully being more compatible will reduce the incompatibility disadvantage, however still it gives Microsoft huge advantage in terms of market control.
As for WMP is concerned the key point is codec support. Does WMP support VP8, Theora, or Vorbis codecs? Nope.
That is why concerns over IE and WMP bundling exist.
As for Firefox in Linux distros, and Safari in OS X is concerned, it's a different case because:
- They don't own the huge market share
- Gecko and Webkit are open source web engines
- They don't have the awful record of breaking compatiblity and monopolistic practices like IE has. Whatever you say, the past record does play a role.
A
Nov 22, 2010 at 5:27 PM
i agrees with liverpool. He is right
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sakumar79 #45
Nov 23, 2010 at 8:17 AM
With Respect to IE:
I agree that IE6 became stagnant for a long time... But I am not fully convinced that just because it has the largest user base (due to being bundled with Windows) it has to be subject to the lawsuit... Why does MS not have the right to bundle its own browser, however old and outdated and incompatible it may be?

With regard to WMP:
Is it the duty of a music player to be compatible with all the codecs out there? I dont think so...

Again, all these are only because Windows has the highest market share... This is again why Windows cannot provide the same complete OOBE that Linux can bring - because it cannot bundle all the software it wants without getting into trouble with the law...

If Windows bundled free/FOSS software, how does Windows handle customer support calls related to these software? It can hardly ask the customer to get in touch with the FOSS software developper nor is it financially viable to give customer support for the free software...

And if Windows buys a software and includes it, there will be hue and cry from vendors of same type software because their market will be affected...

This is why I am repeating that OOBE comparison is useless... It is the End User Experience that is critical...

Arun
desiibond
desiibond #46
Nov 23, 2010 at 10:52 AM
@sakumar79 @abhijangda @Liverpool_fan @cyberjar09 @Rahim

Please take your discussion to a different thread and keep this thread clean. This thread is meant for survey, not for discussion.

Thread for disussion/arguments: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/fight-club/134287-windows-vs-linux-discussion-feedback-thread.html
Liverpool_fan
Nov 23, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Why does MS not have the right to bundle its own browser, however old and outdated and incompatible it may be?
Because it cripples the market, affects the web, extinguishes competition and gives a corporate company control over the entire web. Clearly you need to research on monopolistic practices and anti trust.
Remember the 'Best Viewed in IE6'? Remember being not being able to access web sites with your browsers? I ask why other browsers are put into such disadvantage inherently. Just because a certain company controls the OS market? Does that company have the right to destroy their market too by locking in its users?


With regard to WMP:
Is it the duty of a music player to be compatible with all the codecs out there? I dont think so...
It can EASILY support those free codecs. Not all codecs are being talked about here. Users are locked in with Microsoft codecs which they cannot use legally in other OSes without paying for royalties to Microsoft.
It should support those codecs because it is bundled with the most used operating system, period. They may optionally make their codecs royalty free and implement open source encoders/decoders, if they desire.

If Windows bundled free/FOSS software, how does Windows handle customer support calls related to these software? It can hardly ask the customer to get in touch with the FOSS software developper nor is it financially viable to give customer support for the free software...
They can open source few of their technologies. Can't they? OK I know they won't but at least they should respect the standards of the web/media. IE9 seems a right step in this direction as it has improved standard compliance.

And if Windows buys a software and includes it, there will be hue and cry from vendors of same type software because their market will be affected...
Of course there will be a hue and cry. If one company is totally controlling the market, and using its dominance to push their products, thereby making those products dominant and then actually making other products inherently incompatible with their market leading products, surely the competition is being affected and the market is no longer being free.


Again, all these are only because Windows has the highest market share... This is again why Windows cannot provide the same complete OOBE that Linux can bring - because it cannot bundle all the software it wants without getting into trouble with the law...
This is why I am repeating that OOBE comparison is useless... It is the End User Experience that is critical...
Why it is useless? Microsoft abused its privilege with Internet Explorer, and thus got into trouble with the law. Similarly they are abusing their monopoly with WMP, and have got the anti-trust lawyers behind their backs.
With Linux, being based on open source software, no distro can abuse their privilege. That's a fact.
The fact is Microsoft cannot match Linux on OOBE experience, and that is a direct consequence of the blatant abuse of their monopoly.

@sakumar79 @abhijangda @Liverpool_fan @cyberjar09 @Rahim

Please take your discussion to a different thread and keep this thread clean. This thread is meant for survey, not for discussion.

Sorry didn't read this post. Please move the posts/delete if you wish.
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sakumar79 #48
Nov 23, 2010 at 3:08 PM
Because it cripples the market, affects the web, extinguishes competition and gives a corporate company control over the entire web. Clearly you need to research on monopolistic practices and anti trust.
Remember the 'Best Viewed in IE6'? Remember being not being able to access web sites with your browsers? I ask why other browsers are put into such disadvantage inherently. Just because a certain company controls the OS market? Does that company have the right to destroy their market too by locking in its users?

But is the fault of developing the website to render only in IE due to a MS policy? Did they abuse their power and make the website developers render only in IE correctly? IMHO, just like many hardware makers are providing drivers only for Windows (which is slowly changing), many web devs made the sites for IE only... How does that become MS fault? Is it also MS fault that some of the hardware makers are not releasing drivers for Linux?

It can EASILY support those free codecs. Not all codecs are being talked about here. Users are locked in with Microsoft codecs which they cannot use legally in other OSes without paying for royalties to Microsoft.
It should support those codecs because it is bundled with the most used operating system, period. They may optionally make their codecs royalty free and implement open source encoders/decoders, if they desire.

Are you saying that WMP did not support ANY free codec? I am asking because I do not know the exact details. If so, then I will agree with you... If it already supports one or more free codecs, then I dont think it has to support any other...


They can open source few of their technologies. Can't they? OK I know they won't but at least they should respect the standards of the web/media. IE9 seems a right step in this direction as it has improved standard compliance.
They should respect the standards... And IMHO, if they dont follow the standards, slowly they will be the ones to suffer... But if this is a sufficient case for anti-trust suit, I am not fully convinced... If MS agrees contractually that the standards would be strictly adhered to, and refused to do so, I agree that a lawsuit is imminent... But if not, then No... But this is just my personal opinion.


Of course there will be a hue and cry. If one company is totally controlling the market, and using its dominance to push their products, thereby making those products dominant and then actually making other products inherently incompatible with their market leading products, surely the competition is being affected and the market is no longer being free.

Why it is useless? Microsoft abused its privilege with Internet Explorer, and thus got into trouble with the law. Similarly they are abusing their monopoly with WMP, and have got the anti-trust lawyers behind their backs.
With Linux, being based on open source software, no distro can abuse their privilege. That's a fact.
The fact is Microsoft cannot match Linux on OOBE experience, and that is a direct consequence of the blatant abuse of their monopoly.

The reason why I feel this comparison is useless is because the end user experience depends not just on OOBE but on the final configuration of the OS on his system...

Arun
Rahim
Rahim #49
Nov 23, 2010 at 4:25 PM
^Quite frankly desibond, my post was not a part of a discussion here (i didnt even knew that i was debating this topic).

All right removed long sentences and short answers of the queries.Read it again:

Queries from staticsid answered without bias by Rahim
How long have you been using Linux?
3-4 Years (cant rmember the exact year)

How long have you been using Windows?
7 Years

Which OS did you begin using first?
MS Windows Me

Objectives (Please provide a short explanation for your experiences in each of the provided tasks):

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
I choose Linux here.

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Linux

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Linux and the browser would be Firefox.

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Linux all the way.

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Both OS provides easy way of installing the applications.

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows is easier to setup Networking.

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Windows - considering that professional application are available only on that platform.

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Here a Desktop Environment like KDE kicks Windows where it hurts.

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Linux and it is free of viruses and malwares.

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Hmm,,,,this is a tough one. I cant answer this one.

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Linux.
Rahim
Rahim #50
Nov 23, 2010 at 4:41 PM
Re: Windows vs Linux: Discussion from feedback thread

@sakumar:

All the agreements and MoU of Microsoft are Anti-Competitive which hinders fair play and lacks of probity , which is a crime as per Competition laws of any country.

Microsoft slept all those years with IE6 with no innovation or security improvements till Mozilla Firefox woke them up. Who benefited? Users of course.

In EU MS was forced to provide an option to the users to choose and install a different browsers and more than 40% chose to try non-IE browser and these users are vanilla type.

This is no fanboy talking but there MUST be a level field for competition.
C
Nov 23, 2010 at 5:43 PM
@desiibond I believe the guys at Digit would have already compiled the results of this thread considering it's the 23rd of the month and they prolly should be going to print sometime now ... so it does not matter

oh and one more thing...
desiibond : you failed to report your experience in using the above mentioned OSs ... look to the first 3 questions ..
staticsid
staticsid #52
Nov 23, 2010 at 5:47 PM
@sakumar79 @abhijangda @Liverpool_fan @cyberjar09 @Rahim

Please take your discussion to a different thread and keep this thread clean. This thread is meant for survey, not for discussion.

Thread for disussion/arguments: *www.thinkdigit.com/forum/fight-club/134287-windows-vs-linux-discussion-feedback-thread.html

Well thanks desiibond but we'd like to hear it all ! Feel free to fight over this guys... :)

The reason is that one of the hidden objectives of the survey was also to judge biases (in spite of being told not to be biased) and the passion that people feel for their beloved OSes.
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sakumar79 #53
Nov 23, 2010 at 6:01 PM
Re: Windows vs Linux: Discussion from feedback thread

@Rahim... I agree that MS stagnated IE development from IE6 to IE7... However, what I am saying is that when web developers made their site only IE6 compliant, which was not a decision or armtwisting of MS, IMHO it is not fair to say that it is monopolistic action of MS...

Maybe there was monopoly in some other form, but this particular aspect, in my opinion, is not monopoly...

Again, I am not saying that MS did not deserve an antitrust lawsuit... I do not have full details of the case to make such a statement... All I am saying is that in this particular aspect - stagnation of IE development leading to incompatible website viewing for other browsers - I do not think that a case is valid... Again, this is only my opinion...

Arun
Rahim
Rahim #54
Nov 23, 2010 at 6:39 PM
Re: Windows vs Linux: Discussion from feedback thread

Take this example:
For a long time there was only one company Maruti Suzuki in India and Maruti 800 was the only car in the market and no other competitor. Now if the parts developers build only Maruti certified parts and in the process ends up giving an indirect monopoly to Maruti; this is because there was only one company and their product to run the spare parts business. There was no point on the part of the parts mfg to build non-Maruti spares, is it? Whom to blame? Deals between the company and Government. The same applies to Microsoft and various Governments who is ready to spend tax-payers money on costly products rather than embracing FOSS. If one does not really have viable options in FOSS then its a different matter.
The project of UID is a glaring example.


So you cant blame the website developers for making IE-compliant sites because there was no other browser to talk about. Internet was not build during the years of Firefox; so there was gallons of water flew beneath the bridge and by that time all the sites became IE only. Above all IE was still the only browser who did not follow the Web Standards.

I am not anti-MS but Anti-Competitive.
C
Nov 23, 2010 at 7:05 PM
Im surprised that though the thread got so many views, only a handful replied
Liverpool_fan
Nov 23, 2010 at 7:17 PM
But is the fault of developing the website to render only in IE due to a MS policy? Did they abuse their power and make the website developers render only in IE correctly?
See IE is the most used browser and at one time controlled over 95% of the market. Thus many web developers targeted their browser only. It may not be MS fault for the web developers to create such crappy web sites, but sure it is their fault to be incompatible at the first place, not releasing updates for ages (IE6->IE7). It's their fault it is such a pain to maintain cross browser compatibility. Ask any web developer.
It's a well known fact that Microsoft tried to kill the competition, see Netscape.
IMHO, just like many hardware makers are providing drivers only for Windows (which is slowly changing), many web devs made the sites for IE only... How does that become MS fault? Is it also MS fault that some of the hardware makers are not releasing drivers for Linux?
Nope.

Are you saying that WMP did not support ANY free codec? I am asking because I do not know the exact details. If so, then I will agree with you... If it already supports one or more free codecs, then I dont think it has to support any other...
It doesn't support Vorbis or Theora/FLAC out of the box.
Rahim
Rahim #57
Nov 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM
This thread was in Fight Club and now its back in Feedback section. Strange.
L
Nov 24, 2010 at 4:00 PM
............. but sure it is their fault to be incompatible at the first place,...........It's their fault it is such a pain to maintain cross browser compatibility. Ask any web developer.
:lol:
is it their fault only ??
or should netscape be a party to the guilt too
It's a well known fact that Microsoft tried to kill the competition, see Netscape.
.
well they are in business are they not?
also i dont know if you had ever used the Netscape browsers after their buyout by AOL , they sucked big time , lesser features than IE and had shitload of bugs
furious_gamer
Nov 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM
How long have you been using Linux?

For past 1 year (in office)

How long have you been using Windows?

From 1999

Which OS did you begin using first?

Windows 98

1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?

Windows

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?

Linux

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?

Linux

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.

Windows

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.

Windows

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.

Windows

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)

Windows

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.

Windows

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.

Linux

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.

Windows

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.

Linux


12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?

Windows rocks in terms of usability and AFA games considered, Windows beat Linux easily.. Just my 2 cents.... :D :D
Liverpool_fan
Nov 24, 2010 at 5:35 PM
:lol:
is it their fault only ??
or should netscape be a party to the guilt too
To be fair, Netscape were standard incompatible to a large extent too. However their code base was sort of reborn with "Mozilla" and for I am concerned it has NOT been holding back the web in recent years.
And yes it's Microsoft's fault that Internet Explorer was NOT updated for 5 fricking years. No major update even with Win XP's Service Pack, or any interim release. And shall we talk of the incompatiblities of IE7, my good lad?


well they are in business are they not?
So they should be prepared for anti-trust injunction. You can't have it both ways.

also i dont know if you had ever used the Netscape browsers after their buyout by AOL , they sucked big time , lesser features than IE and had shitload of bugs
I used to use Netscape 6 and 7. Preferred them over IE6. Netscape 7 has TABS (not sure Netscape 6 had them) and that was a huge advantage in terms of usability. Not sure of lesser features you are talking about. Netscape was more like bloated with way too many useless features than 'lesser features' than IE.
M
mayank1 #61
Jan 11, 2011 at 2:56 PM
Hello eveyone, I have seeing Windows VS Linux: Power to the user.its realy wonderful....thanks.
satyamy
satyamy #62
Jan 11, 2011 at 3:18 PM
How long have you been using Linux?
2 Years

How long have you been using Windows?
15 Years

Which OS did you begin using first?
Windows 3.1


1. When you installed Linux/Windows, which one did you find easier to install?
Windows, because of its step by step explanation features

2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Currently Windows 7, Earlier Window XP

3. Which of the OS's provided the best default web browser based on 1.functionality, 2.security, and 3.user-friendliness?
Windows(Almost all browser Internet Explorer, Firefox etc. Runs smoothly)

4. Which OS did you find better to customize based on how easy it was to customize, the amount of visual and audible appeal, and the variety of customization available for the OS.
Windows can be adjusted as per need

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Windows Very Easy to Find & Install, because almost all software are windows compatible, compatibility issue occurs in Linux

6. Which OS provided a better networking experience in terms of security, setting up a LAN (wired and wireless), printer (network or direct) and functionality.
Windows

7. Which OS is a better base for productivity, whether it be programming,
writing, graphical design, etc. ( It can be a combination of these if you do more than one. Feel free to add your own.)
Windows

8. Which OS provided better file and folder management based on copying
and moving files, finding your files, adding and deleting files.
Windows

9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Windows

10. Which OS do you find easier to troubleshoot based on man/info/help pages, working out issues on your own, and online help like forums and online
documentation.
Windows

11. Which OS provided the most stability and performance based on cpu usage, peripheral hardware compatibility (IE: mouse, tablet, webcam), software and OS freezing, crashing, locking-up, and hardware compatibility.
Windows (both are almost same but windows is quite better)

12. Anything additional worth a mention as far as this comparison between Linux and Windows goes?[/QUOTE]
All New Software & New Hardware Devices support Windows, linux is optional, even though linux is a Free Open Source but its worth to Pay for Windows

Dear Mr. staticsid you must have also added a Poll for Overall Performance (now for it u need to count it manually)
J
Joker #63
Jan 11, 2011 at 4:55 PM
2. Which OS provided the best default programs post installation?
Currently Windows 7, Earlier Window XP
9. Which OS was easier to maintain based on scanning/removing viruses and malware, defragmenting and cleaning up disk space, and backing up your information.
Windows
These two have to be pisstake reasons. :mrgreen:

5. Which OS did you find it easier to add new programs based on how easy it was to find the software, how easy it was to install.
Windows Very Easy to Find & Install, because almost all software are windows compatible, compatibility issue occurs in Linux
Tells me that you don't have much idea about what you talked in ur post. :mrgreen:

AND I USE WINDOWS. ;)

@ico, in many Windows vs Linux comparisons, I am noticing this tendency among Linux supporters... When someone says that Linux needs to catch up on hardware support, Linux fans mention that it is not Linux's fault but hardware manufacturers fault for not providing it... But then, they go out to point that many tools like OpenOffice, etc are pre-bundled with Linux but not with Windows as an advantage... If Windows were to bundle software, there would be lot of Anti Trust actions (remember the hoopla when Windows Vista/7 started a different security mechanism? and remember IE and WMP cases in Europe?)... This is "not our problem" the Linux supporters say... If we look at it impartially, if it is not their problem and the point is to be considered for comparing Lin and Win, then it is not the Windows users problem that hardware vendors do not give Linux drivers and that point should be considered also...

IMHO, if we are comparing Linux vs Windows, both points HAVE to be considered because we are to look at it impartially from the end user point of view where the end user will be affected by these points which may become an issue to him... And here, it is to be noted that the problem in Windows is more easily solved (getting third party software) than some of the Linux problems (hardware support)... But should be noted that Windows problems may be universal (in all cases) whereas Linux problems are case-specific (incompatibility with some hardware)

Arun
when you buy your hardware (small time hardware like USB dongle, webcam), it has two icons on the package. "Designed for Windows" and a Mac smiley icon.

people are sitting to write a driver for non-working devices, but again it is in the hardware vendor's hand to open up the spec. I really think it isnot a too big task for the hardware vendor (like Canon) to write a driver for Linux, is it?

OpenOffice and Firefox arenot causing any profit to any company. when they come preinstalled, you actually "own" them and can remove it straight away. If Microsoft Office came free with Windows 7, 95% of the people will actually be very happy as they are getting the best Office software for free. :)

IE and WMP are no way the best in their field. It was like forcing a no -competitive product over users. Hence,the AntiTrust cases.
Liverpool_fan
Jan 11, 2011 at 4:56 PM
I say there should be a test before being allowed to post answers here. :|
rajeshjsl
rajeshjsl #67
Jan 12, 2011 at 5:21 PM
better make it on a click based survey with options ..