Workstation + Gaming PC, Budget 90K

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1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Workstation for browsing (20-30 tabs together), light Photoshop and video editing, light gaming

2. What is your overall budget? If you can extend a bit for a more balanced configuration, then mention this too.
Ans: 90K (upto 100K if needed)

3. Planning to overclock?
Ans: Yes

4. Which Operating System are you planning to use?
Ans: Windows 7

5. How much hard drive space is needed?
Ans: 1TB + 256GB SSD

6. Do you want to buy a monitor? If yes, please mention which screen size and resolution do you want. If you already have a monitor and want to reuse it, again mention the size and resolution of monitor you have.
Ans: No, Already have two Dell 2412m

7. Which components you DON'T want to buy or which components you already have and plan on reusing?
Ans: Monitor, Graphics card

8. When are you planning to buy the system?
Ans: 3-7 days

9. Have you ever built a desktop before or will this be done by an assembler?
Ans: Does that matter?

10. Where do you live? Are you buying locally? Are you open to buying stuff from online shops if you don't get locally?
Ans: Kolkata, don't matter it's online or offline
11. Anything else which you would like to say?
Ans:

Here is what I have shortlisted so far:

intel i7 4770K
Asus Z87 Pro
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
Corsair VS650 650
WD Blue 1 TB
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB
Asus Blu-ray BW-12B1ST
cooler master haf912 / corsair carbide 400r

which gpu do you have??

dont go for corsair vs series psus. choose seasonic m12 ii 650.
also for heavy overclocking hyper 212 wont be enough. get noctua nh d14 or liquid cooler set up.

Welcome to TDF

> Which graphic card do you have?

1. What is the purpose of the computer? What all applications and games are you going to run? (Stupid answers like 'gaming' or 'office work' will not work. Be exact. Which games? Which applications? Avoid the word 'et cetera.')
Ans: Workstation for browsing (20-30 tabs together), light Photoshop and video editing, light gaming

> Please elaborate. Which software will you use for video edition? Which games? What settings will you use for those games? How much and what sort of video editing will you perform? Be exact.

And for browsing 20-30 tabs in Chrome, an i5 with 8GB+ ram will suffice.

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harshilsharma63 said:
Welcome to TDF

> Which graphic card do you have?

> Please elaborate. Which software will you use for video edition? Which games? What settings will you use for those games? How much and what sort of video editing will you perform? Be exact.

I have GTX 650Ti (Asus) which I brought almost 15 months ago. Will upgrade in future, but not right now.
As I said light video rendering in windows movie maker ( I do have some YouTube channels and a network of websites)
While gaming I will use native 1920x1200 (high settings) in single monitor.

rijinpk1 said:
which gpu do you have??

dont go for corsair vs series psus. choose seasonic m12 ii 650.
also for heavy overclocking hyper 212 wont be enough. get noctua nh d14 or liquid cooler set up.

What's the problem with VS series PSU? It's rated 80+ Bronze.

Where it is rated as 80+ bronze?

Intel Core i7 4770K -22000,
Asus Z87 Pro -17000,
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB -14000,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -2600,
Corsair GS600 -4500,
WD Caviar Blue 1 TB -3800,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz (4GBx2) -5800,
Asus Blu-ray BW-12B1ST -9500,
Corsair Carbide 400R -6000.
TOTAL -85,200.

Sadek said:
I have GTX 650Ti (Asus) which I brought almost 15 months ago. Will upgrade in future, but not right now.
As I said light video rendering in windows movie maker ( I do have some YouTube channels and a network of websites)
While gaming I will use native 1920x1200 (high settings) in single monitor.

What's the problem with VS series PSU? It's rated 80+ Bronze.

An i5 or FX 8350 will very easily suffice your needs. You don't need to shell out 90k for these requirements as the most demanding task I see here is gaming and GTX 650ti will get you no where near 1080p @ ultra. I'll highly recommend selling your graphic card right now and get a new one together with the complete config.

If you sell 650ti, you can get this:

FX 8350 (13000)
Asus M5A99FX PRO R2.0 (11000)
Cooler Master Hyper 212X (2700)
Corsair Vengeance 4 GB 1600 MHz x2 (5400)
WD Blue 1 TB (3800)
Samsung 840 EVO 120 GB SSD (7500)
Sapphire R9 290 4GB DDR5 TRI-X (35500)
Seasonic S12II 620 (5700)
Corsair 400R (5300)
Asus optical drive (1000)

total: 90.2k

[MENTION=140941]harshilsharma63[/MENTION], the config is perfectly fine. But I think he can opt for 8GBX2 configuration.

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I am not going to sell 650Ti as I am not a power gamer and it's more than enough for me right now. I will consider upgrading it later on, And BTW: I forgot to mention I wanted an Intel based CPU which is future proof (i5 4670k will satisfy my needs right now, but not after 1 year).

Here is my Config:

intel i7 4770K
Asus Z87 Pro
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO
[STRIKE]Corsair VS650 650 [/STRIKE]Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU
WD Blue 1 TB
Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB
Asus Blu-ray BW-12B1ST
cooler master haf912 / corsair carbide 400r

Cilus said:
Where it is rated as 80+ bronze?

At flipkart that was rated 85% Efficiency. I changed my mind after your recommendation. Now moved to Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU from VS 650

@harshilsharma63 Sorry not interested in AMD Rig. Please tell me if you need any alteration in my above config or if you have a better config in Intel Processor.

Should I stick to Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or move to Corsair H100i/ Corsair H80i

BTW: Guys which one is overall better HAF 912 or Carbide 400R ?

Cilus said:
@harshilsharma63 , the config is perfectly fine. But I think he can opt for 8GBX2 configuration.

But I seriously think OP won't need 16 GB RAM, look at his replies. Now I think even 8 GB is more.

Sadek said:
I am not going to sell 650Ti as I am not a power gamer and it's more than enough for me right now. I will consider upgrading it later on, And BTW: I forgot to mention I wanted an Intel based CPU which is future proof (i5 4670k will satisfy my needs right now, but not after 1 year).

Here is my Config:

intel i7 4770K

Asus Z87 Pro

Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

[STRIKE]Corsair VS650 650 [/STRIKE]Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU

WD Blue 1 TB

Corsair Vengeance DDR3 8 GB

Asus Blu-ray BW-12B1ST

cooler master haf912 / corsair carbide 400r

At flipkart that was rated 85% Efficiency. I changed my mind after your recommendation. Now moved to Seasonic S12II 620 Watts PSU from VS 650

@harshilsharma63 Sorry not interested in AMD Rig. Please tell me if you need any alteration in my above config or if you have a better config in Intel Processor.

Should I stick to Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO or move to Corsair H100i/ Corsair H80i

BTW: Guys which one is overall better HAF 912 or Carbide 400R ?

> 1080p gaming with 650ti? Good luck.

> Why do you want an Intel rig? wht is the problem with AMD config?

> Nothing is future proof. Period.

> If a 650ti can satisfy your 1080p gaming needs then an i5 4570k will satisfy your every need for your whole life.

> There is nothing that an i5 4570k will be slow at, say 2 years later. You are just wasting you money. Even an i5 4430 is perfectly enough four you. i7 4570 will be a big overkill. Seriously, analyze what you need to do on this PC. Windows Movie Maker doesn't need an i7 4770k, nor does Phitoshop and nor does opening 20-30 tabs in Firefox. I have an i3 2100 and it still serves well at anything you throw at it.

> About overclocking, how much do you intend to overclock the CPU?

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harshilsharma63 said:
But I seriously think OP won't need 16 GB RAM, look at his replies. Now I think even 8 GB is more.

> 1080p gaming with 650ti? Good luck.

> Why do you want an Intel rig? why is the problem with AMD config?

> Nothing is future proof. Period.

> If a 650ti can satisfy your 1080p gaming needs then an i5 4570k will satisfy your every need for your whole life.

> There is nothing that an i5 4570k will be slow at, say 2 years later. You are just wasting you money. Even an i5 4430 is perfectly enough four you. i7 4570 will be a big overkill. Seriously, analyze what you need to do on this PC. Windows Movie Maker doesn't need an i7 4770k, nor does Photoshop and nor does opening 20-30 tabs in Firefox. I have an i3 2100 and it still serves well at anything you throw at it.

> About overclocking, how much do you intend to overclock the CPU?

I do not need 16GB of RAM, 8GB is enough for me right now.

I also know nothing is future proof, but consider if you have brought a Dual core rig instead of Core 2 Duo rig 4 year ago which one is somehow usable right now?

As I said light gaming so I do not need 60 or 70 FPS. I do not want to sell my 650Ti right now, I will use that until it is usable.

Regarding movie maker, I am not going to stuck at Windows Movie maker for my entire life, will upgrade to Adobe Premier or Sony Vegas Pro.

You are right I currently don't need i7, but in future (after 1 year) this will be OK as processing needs of every program is increasing day by day.

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Sadek said:
I do not need 16GB of RAM, 8GB is enough for me right now.

I also know nothing is future proof, but consider if you have brought a Dual core rig instead of Core 2 Duo rig 4 year ago which one is somehow usable right now?

As I said light gaming so I do not need 60 or 70 FPS. I do not want to sell my 650Ti right now, I will use that until it is usable.

Regarding movie maker, I am not going to stuck at Windows Movie maker for my entire life, will upgrade to Adobe Premier or Sony Vegas Pro.

You are right I currently don't need i7, but in future (after 1 year) this will be OK as processing needs of every program is increasing day by day.

Windows movie maker is the least of the system hogger currently with the cores and hyper threads we have on i5's/i7's. And considering your requirements and the processing power of a AMD OCed CPU, I agree with [MENTION=140941]harshilsharma63[/MENTION] 's recommendation.

650Ti itself is an outdated card. So your fuure proofing ideology and the GPU doesnt go well togather.

Now one question, who told you that i7 - K version will be a "future proof" and not i5? Is it a speculation or do u have any written/agreed upon thesis on this??

People here try to suggest you the best build for your moolah. Ultimately its your own moolah and u have every right to burn it the way you want it to be burnt. All we do here is suggest. Either you take it or leave it, it doesnt concern us.

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Since the OP says 'light gaming' he is ok with the card which he has and in case he needs he can upgrade to another card later.
From his posts he does't seem to be bothered for high end gaming at least for now,so why suggest him r9 290?
Try to read what OP wants/needs and not assert what you like. 35k card for light gaming? really?
He also clearly mentions that he is not going to stick with windows moviemaker always and can use others like premier and vegas pro.
Yes an i5 4xxx/k or fx8350 would do fine but if he has the money and wants to spend for an overclock-able rig then there is no problem in getting unlocked i7.
i7 4770k is overall much better than fx8350.

[MENTION=281638]Sadek[/MENTION]
your config in post #10 is fine.Out of haf912 and carbide 400r the latter is better.
You can change the cabinet to nzxt source 530 full tower and can change the CPU cooler to h80i or likes.

If you can wait for some months more,then intel's devil canyon would be released,might also have arrived here and hopefully z97 boards would have also get released here by then.It is being marketed as a better overclocker,if it comes with suitable pricing and better overclocking ability or it leads to price cut then you can have better options.Basically it is the same architecture so clock to clock there would be no perfomance difference,just that it might run a lot cooler and might overclock better than 4770k.It might also be priced 30-50$ higher than existing i7 4770k.
But if a stable Govt. is not formed by then dollar-inr ratio might get higher later and prices of components can get higher.

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[MENTION=135632]vkl[/MENTION] Among all above members you understood what I really need.

For those who thinks i5 rig is best for me, I would love to see the i5 rig proposed by you.

Intel Xeon E3 1230 v3 -16800,
Gigabyte H87-D3H -9000,
Samsung 840 EVO 256GB -10500,
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -2700,
Seasonic S12II 620 -5800,
WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3800,
Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz(4GBx2) -5800,
Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,
Corsair Carbide 400R -5500,
Sapphire R9 290 4GB -36000,
Cooler Master 120mm 3 BLUE LED fans -1600.
TOTAL -98,600.

For a 1080p Gaming the above said GPU is best suited.So Good Luck.

bavusani said:
Intel Xeon E3 1230 v3 -16800,

Gigabyte H87-D3H -9000,

Samsung 840 EVO 256GB -10500,

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -2700,

Seasonic S12II 620 -5800,

WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3800,

Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz(4GBx2) -5800,

Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,

Corsair Carbide 400R -5500,

Sapphire R9 290X TRi-X -36000,

Cooler Master 120mm 3 BLUE LED fans -1600.

TOTAL -98,600.

For a 1080p Gaming the above said GPU is best suited.So Good Luck.

Sapphire R9 290X TRi-X -36000, ?? Can you please post a link where it is available?

sam_738844 said:
Sapphire R9 290X TRi-X -36000, ?? Can you please post a link where it is available?

Sorry Just Sapphire R9 290 4GB.

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sam_738844 said:
Sapphire R9 290X TRi-X -36000, ?? Can you please post a link where it is available?

And remember, its "best suited" for 1080p

rakesh_ic said:
And remember, its "best suited" for 1080p

bavusani said:
Intel Xeon E3 1230 v3 -16800,

Gigabyte H87-D3H -9000,

Samsung 840 EVO 256GB -10500,

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -2700,

Seasonic S12II 620 -5800,

WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3800,

Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz(4GBx2) -5800,

Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,

Corsair Carbide 400R -5500,

Sapphire R9 290X TRi-X -36000,

Cooler Master 120mm 3 BLUE LED fans -1600.

TOTAL -98,600.

For a 1080p Gaming the above said GPU is best suited.So Good Luck.

Woah, thats an real overkill!

And light gaming i m taking medium settings on 1080p so your card will be fine
But still try to get this, it will be very futureproof as my Pentium d 805 still handles stuff well and inbuilt graphics suffied my need for many years and even ran hitman4 at low settings

So this rig would be great and can support the computer for near 7 years (based on my usage opinions though cuz an 4th gen i3 is 10k times powerful than my PC and r290 with 4gb ddr5 is 1trillion times better than my inbuilt graphics of g41)

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arnabbiswasalsodeep said:
Woah, thats an real overkill!

And light gaming i m taking medium settings on 1080p so your card will be fine
But still try to get this, it will be very futureproof as my Pentium d 805 still handles stuff well and inbuilt graphics suffied my need for many years and even ran hitman4 at low settings

So this rig would be great and can support the computer for near 7 years (based on my usage opinions though cuz an 4th gen i3 is 10k times powerful than my PC and r290 with 4gb ddr5 is 1trillion times better than my inbuilt graphics of g41)

Brother.. Sorry to say the benchmarks doesnt consider your "so called pc" into picture when you have the oldest possible setup here. Besides, how can you even think of comparing it with the latest configs?

bavusani said:
Intel Xeon E3 1230 v3 -16800,

Gigabyte H87-D3H -9000,

Samsung 840 EVO 256GB -10500,

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO -2700,

Seasonic S12II 620 -5800,

WD Caviar Blue 1TB -3800,

Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600Mhz(4GBx2) -5800,

Asus 24B5ST DVD-RW -1100,

Corsair Carbide 400R -5500,

Sapphire R9 290 4GB -36000,

Cooler Master 120mm 3 BLUE LED fans -1600.

TOTAL -98,600.

For a 1080p Gaming the above said GPU is best suited.So Good Luck.

did u not see what vkl said

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Hello guys, thanks for your recommendation, but I would like to clear one thing again: I am not going to buy a GPU right now. I will upgrade my current graphics card to the latest version after 1 year. So please keep GPU out of your rig, another thing include price of OS within this budget.
Xeon E3 is not appropriate for my build as I donot own a basket of GPU, if current GPU fails any time XEON build will be unusable due to lack of onboard graphics. Remember : This is not a Pro Gamers rig ( I am a light gamer), and this will be used as workstation most of the time.

Lastly guys: A bit confused in between Seagate Barracuda (1 TB/2 TB) and WD blue (which is only available in 1TB. Any recommendation ?

Get the WD blue, it is better.

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Core i7 4770K @ 21.57K (Snapdeal.com)
Asrock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional @ 17.8K
Kingston HyperX 8GBX2 1600MHz DDR3 @ 9.4K (*www.snapdeal.com/product/kingston-hyperx-ddr3-8-gb/1430630)
Corsair Hydro H60 Water Cooler @ 4.8K
WD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gbps HDD @ 3.8K
Transcend 256GB SSD TS256GSSD340 @ 8.8K
Asus 24B5ST DVD R/W @ 1.1K
Seasonic S12II 620 PSU 5.8K
Corsair Carbide 400R Cabinet @ 5.5K

Total: 78.57K

Here I have added 4770K along with Asrock Fatal1ty motherboard which is great for overclocking and comes with very high build quality, high density power connector with 15% less loss, very high end Audio chipset(Purity Sound) and netwaork adpater ( Qualcomm Atheros Killer LAN) along with plenty of connectivity options. Also Haswell processors need better cooling solution for overclocking and that's why 4.8K Water cooler instead of sub 4K air coolers.
Also added 16GB Ram which will be helpful during running memory intensive appliations and the kind of web browsing you have mentioned.
Regarding SSD, added a Transcend 256GB SSD which offers similar performance of a Corsair and Plextor SSD as hey use the same controller but the Transcend one is cheaper in India.

Cilus said:
Get the WD blue, it is better.

- - - Updated - - -

Core i7 4770K @ 21.57K (Snapdeal.com)
Asrock Fatal1ty Z87 Professional @ 17.8K
Kingston HyperX 8GBX2 1600MHz DDR3 @ 9.4K (*www.snapdeal.com/product/kingston-hyperx-ddr3-8-gb/1430630)
[STRIKE]Cooler Master [/STRIKE]Corsair Hydro H60 Water Cooler @ 4.8K
WD Caviar Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gbps HDD @ 3.8K
Transcend 256GB SSD TS256GSSD340 @ 8.8K
Asus 24B5ST DVD R/W @ 1.1K
Seasonic S12II 620 PSU 5.8K
Corsair Carbide 400R Cabinet @ 5.5K

Total: 78.57K

Here I have added 4770K along with Asrock Fatal1ty motherboard which is great for overclocking and comes with very high build quality, high density power connector with 15% less loss, very high end Audio chipset(Purity Sound) and netwaork adpater ( Qualcomm Atheros Killer LAN) along with plenty of connectivity options. Also Haswell processors need better cooling solution for overclocking and that's why 4.8K Water cooler instead of sub 4K air coolers.
Also added 16GB Ram which will be helpful during running memory intensive appliations and the kind of web browsing you have mentioned.
Regarding SSD, added a Transcend 256GB SSD which offers similar performance of a Corsair and Plextor SSD as hey use the same controller but the Transcend one is cheaper in India.

typo correct

Edited..thanks for pointing out

^^ Transcend has worst after sales service so it would be better to go with brands like Corsair / Samsung.

@Op - Workstation for browsing (20-30 tabs together), light Photoshop and video editing, light gaming - just a thought .. I can even open more than 100+ tabs on opera 12.16, 10 in chromium, 8 in IE 11 and two on waterfox while running torrent client, IDM, Firewall and Av on the background - all concurrently on a 955 BE.

Mentioned this cause 4770k sounds to powerful such tasks

.. anyway, for light gaming do post the name of the games you will be playing but still getting a GTX 760 or GTX 750 Ti is really going to help.

Workstation + Gaming PC, Budget 90K - 100K