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Would you rather buy MMX A116 Canvas HD for 14,500/- or Samsung Galaxy S III for Rs. 19,500/-?

My budget is around 15k. At first I wanted to buy MMX Canvas HD A116. But then, a friend of mine said he can arrange me a S3 for Rs. 19,500/- new, sealed pack and with bill. I asked how and he said said his friend brought it from outside India.

The only condition he is implying that I'll have to bring money to his friend and get the S3 at once. Meaning I cannot see the S3 then go back home, bring my money and buy it then.

What do you think?

S3 for 19.5k is very fishy.. I think it is one of the seller warranty phones which do not have official warranty in india..
A116 is tempting, but still stay out of it..
Id suggest you take the blue pill and wait for Xperia L
Or if you cant wait, then get L9
Lumia 620 is another good option (provided you are okay with Windows Phone 8 limitations)
5 lines, 5 suggestions, your choice

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+1 for waiting for Xperia L.

SIII @ 19k , fishy, big no.

I agree with Nerevarine. Go for L9, if no wait. Otherwise wait for Xperia L.

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Nerevarine said:
S3 for 19.5k is very fishy.. I think it is one of the seller warranty phones which do not have official warranty in india..
A116 is tempting, but still stay out of it..
Id suggest you take the blue pill and wait for Xperia L
Or if you cant wait, then get L9
Lumia 620 is another good option (provided you are okay with Windows Phone 8 limitations)
5 lines, 5 suggestions, your choice

No... Android only please

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As MMX Canvas HD is out of stock, I'll have to wait till about 1st or 2nd week of April either way. Is it worth trading off warranty for saving almost 50% of the MRP?

Several articles state S3 as the world's best phone, so it is very tempting. (Also because just the fact that it is "S3" you know "raising status" )

How about buying it from Gaffar Market?

Is it worth trading off warranty for saving almost 50% of the MRP?

No man, Dont do this mistake..
Even official service centers wont repair seller warranty phones even if u pay them to..
Its certainly not worth trading off the warranty..
If possible I would have suggested you warranty extension

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Nerevarine said:
No man, Dont do this mistake..
Even official service centers wont repair seller warranty phones even if u pay them to..
Its certainly not worth trading off the warranty..
If possible I would have suggested you warranty extension

If we use these phones with excellent care, why would it get defected? Furthermore, even if it gets defected, can't we get it fixed at local shops... at most it will cost about rs. 3000/- making the 19,500 -> 22500/- Even 22500 seems a super buy for S3.

Indeed it is, but there is no guarentee that local shops will be able to repair a S3..
and even if they do, it is possible that they might charge more..
Like I said, it is your choice though..
I sure as hell am never gonna buy a Seller warranty phone ever again (Neo V)
EDIT: If you are going for S3, id suggest you atleast check the box if it's company sealed or not

@OP
If you feel like buying S3, go ahead. But be aware that there is no guarantee that local phones will repair your phone. I tried to replace display of my SE X10 Mini in local shop. He charged me 5k and replaced screen with some cheap display. Now it looks like some MMX display and it lost it's BRAVIA touch. Just another case.

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@Nerevarine how do I know if it's company sealed or not? I heard some people smuggle phones and re-pack it, is it true?

@furious_gamer does a expensive phone really ever get defected in the first year? I think most phones start getting defected after it gets old (like 2-3 years).

I'm curious if a genuine second hand S3 with warranty is better than sealed pack S3 without warranty..?

You can buy used from E/TE and nope, you cannot predict when it will get defected. For some, it will never happen, for rest, it will happen very soon. So better safe than sorry, especially the amount at stake is huge.

@Nerevarine how do I know if it's company sealed or not? I heard some people smuggle phones and re-pack it, is it true?

Not sure, maybe original samsung seal ? I have never owned a samsung smartphone.. so i cant say
Yes, they ARE illegaly smuggled.. thats why they are called seller warranty phones..cuz there's no way for them to provide manufacturer's warranty with a smuggled product

If you have a choice between Used and Seller warranty, id pick the seller warranty though.. as long as its sealed

It's fake S3 folks! Saw some guyz trolling here too! I would say Get L9 or wait for Xperia L
BIG NO.

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pratyush997 said:
It's fake S3 folks! Saw some guyz trolling here too! I would say Get L9 or wait for Xperia L
BIG NO.

Is there a way to check if it's real or fake?

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yearcut said:
@Nerevarine how do I know if it's company sealed or not? I heard some people smuggle phones and re-pack it, is it true?

@furious_gamer does a expensive phone really ever get defected in the first year? I think most phones start getting defected after it gets old (like 2-3 years).

I'm curious if a genuine second hand S3 with warranty is better than sealed pack S3 without warranty..?

My 2 cents,

I know you are thinking about the savings on an S3 bought at 20K. But I am asking you to think about the money (the 20K) that you are putting at stake without any idea on whether the mobile that you are recieving works or not or even if it is genuine.
On a worst case scenario if the mobile doesnt work -

1) You dont have the warranty
2) Samsung doesnt accept to repair it
3) Finding a local shop with reasonable pricing to repair it is a task
4) You will most probably end up replacing something with a non-original part (samsung made) from the local shop

Above all,
5) The pain and the discomfort that will hunt you down on taking a wrong decision to save some bucks.
6) The mobile will lose your "enthu" that you otherwise might have carried on exploring it as a brand new awesome device.

Think before you invest. the money you are saving is not worth the money you are putting at risk when the odds are bad.

On a side note, the screen replacement alone on galaxy variants will set you back my 7.5K (ofcourse original). So if something goes wrong, be prepared to spend the hell out of your pockets (without warranty)

yearcut said:
Is there a way to check if it's real or fake?

Guys,
seller warranty>Micromax warranty
/jk

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Nanducob said:
Guys,
seller warranty>Micromax warranty
/jk

I was going to say the exact same thing lol... So to conlude,

1. If I want to buy S III, I should buy it with manufacturer's warrenty only.
2. That means I'll have to wait, and save more money (or ask dad)
3. Or I should settle for medium config phones.

I just finished my boards, so dad is buying me a phone, he agreed to spend 15k, but I feel bad if I'll ask him to shell out 32K for original with warranty S3..

However, what's wrong with Canvas HD as you guys are not recommending it provided SOOO many good reviews on YouTube and newspapers?

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yearcut said:
I was going to say the exact same thing lol... So to conlude,

1. If I want to buy S III, I should buy it with manufacturer's warrenty only.
2. That means I'll have to wait, and save more money (or ask dad)
3. Or I should settle for medium config phones.

I just finished my boards, so dad is buying me a phone, he agreed to spend 15k, but I feel bad if I'll ask him to shell out 32K for original with warranty S3..

However, what's wrong with Canvas HD as you guys are not recommending it provided SOOO many good reviews on YouTube and newspapers?

Micromax Is A Emerging Company,It Has A Lot More To Learn And Moreover The Company Has Announced That It Will Launch New Canvas After Every Two Months.(Don't Know Whether They Will Launch New Canvas In April Or May lol)
In My Opinion You Have Two Options :
Buy L9 OR Wait For Xperia L

Check the chipset, if it is mediatek or some odd chinese brand, then its definitely fake

@yearcut I'd recommend Xolo Q800 over Canvas HD. Ya it has a qhd display but overall quality of Q800 is a notch better then Canvas HD & it is slightly faster due lower screen resolution (NenaMark 2 A116=40 fps, Q800=56-58 fps).

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Empirial said:
@yearcut I'd recommend Xolo Q800 over Canvas HD. Ya it has a qhd display but overall quality of Q800 is a notch better then Canvas HD & it is slightly faster due lower screen resolution (NenaMark 2 A116=40 fps, Q800=56-58 fps).

Then Why Not Xolo X1000,The King Of Xolo Devices @14k
But I Would Never Recommend Xolo Devices,Because Development Is Much Slower And Sometimes There Is No Development.
So Stay With Sony Or LG In My Opinion.

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Do you REALLY have to buy a phone right now? If you're getting a nice and better option, just a month or two away, why don't you wait?
Also, who knows, you might convince your dad for some more money and get your device upgraded to Xperia SP!!

P.S. : Even I am waiting for Xperia SP...

acervenky said:
Then Why Not Xolo X1000,The King Of Xolo Devices @14k
But I Would Never Recommend Xolo Devices,Because Development Is Much Slower And Sometimes There Is No Development.
So Stay With Sony Or LG In My Opinion.

X1000 is also a good device but scored only 29 fps in NenaMark 2 due 720p Display & PowerVR SGX540 GPU. If OP is not interested in HD Gaming then he can definately consider X1000.

@acervenky The price of X1000 is around 18k.

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Empirial said:
X1000 is also a good device but scored only 29 fps in NenaMark 2 due 720p Display & PowerVR SGX540 GPU. If OP is not interested in HD Gaming then he can definately consider X1000.

@acervenky The price of X1000 is around 18k.

Yes,My Bad.Saw It In A Local Store.(Without Warranty) At A Price Of About 14k
But Anyways,If OP Wants Better Experience,Then He Should Buy A Branded Device.

Lava has worse warranty than Micromax..
Why would you suggest Lava to him then ?
Safe Options - L9,Xperia L,Lumia620
Risky- S3 (the deal you are getting)
NOT Recommended - LAVA, Micromax, Karbonn

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Nerevarine said:
Lava has worse warranty than Micromax..
Why would you suggest Lava to him then ?
Safe Options - L9,Xperia L,Lumia620
Risky- S3 (the deal you are getting)
NOT Recommended - LAVA, Micromax, Karbonn

This Is What I Am Trying To Say.

I don't know if it was in TDF or some other forum, one guy went to buy S3 to a Samsung smartphone cafe and guess what ! The Samsung store guy sold him a fake S3 for 35k. LOL

He was smart enough so he caught the guy and got an original one from him along with some good discount

So there is NO doubt that S3 @ 19k will be 200% fake.

19.5 k is too much for a 200% fake device.

randomuser111 said:
I don't know if it was in TDF or some other forum, one guy went to buy S3 to a Samsung smartphone cafe and guess what ! The Samsung store guy sold him a fake S3 for 35k. LOL

He was smart enough so he caught the guy and got an original one from him along with some good discount

So there is NO doubt that S3 @ 19k will be 200% fake.

Yeah, it was on tdf.

He got s3 for 29k then

Damn that fake S3 video is so close to original S3...beware

yearcut said:
@furious_gamer does a expensive phone really ever get defected in the first year? I think most phones start getting defected after it gets old (like 2-3 years).

yes expensive phones do get defects in 1st year
there is no hard & fast rule which says that expensive phones are immune to defects/failures.
if u go to the service center (lets say Apple..then u will find a queue of iphone 4/5 etc with some form of error/defects etc.

dnt buy that 19k S3 to get into all sorts of trouble,dnt waste dad's money on a fake device.
instead get a good dual core phone from a genuine brand (LG,SONY,HTC etc)

Looks fishy. More like a plot to loot you, "bring the money with you" lol

Even then an S3 is too cute for a guy to carry it off.

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Display is a big factor for me. Resolution and screen size matters very much. I want a 4.5"+ screen size android phone. (I'll be using it to read eBooks and showing HD presentation videos to people, all the time) Another big factor is camera quality. Gaming is secondary. But having Jelly Bean (latest OS) is big factor, as I just sold my iPhone 3G because iOS 4.2.1 was sooo outdated that no apps would load on it. So, I know the consequences of buying a mobile with an outdated OS.

Putting these in mind, Xperia L is is too short. The S3 deal I was getting is no longer available as the guy got hyper when I told him that I'll check the phone and then bring money from home.

To conclude, L9 is the only good device for me?

btw, what is the expected price of Xperia L in India? and what is the expected launch date?

and right now I don't have any smartphone, so I can only wait 2 weeks max or I'll get bipolar lol... (I was addicted to iPhone)

I welcome any new phone suggestions...

yearcut said:
Display is a big factor for me. Resolution and screen size matters very much. I want a 4.5"+ screen size android phone. (I'll be using it to read eBooks and showing HD presentation videos to people, all the time) Another big factor is camera quality. Gaming is secondary. But having Jelly Bean (latest OS) is big factor, as I just sold my iPhone 3G because iOS 4.2.1 was sooo outdated that no apps would load on it. So, I know the consequences of buying a mobile with an outdated OS.

Putting these in mind, Xperia L is is too short. The S3 deal I was getting is no longer available as the guy got hyper when I told him that I'll check the phone and then bring money from home.

To conclude, L9 is the only good device for me?

btw, what is the expected price of Xperia L in India? and what is the expected launch date?

and right now I don't have any smartphone, so I can only wait 2 weeks max or I'll get bipolar lol... (I was addicted to iPhone)

I welcome any new phone suggestions...

*Phew* You just saved those 19k

BTW Get LG L9 as you got no device now or else you can get some ultra cheapo mobile to pass a month or two (NOt Cool though) and wait for Xperia L
Your choice!

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pratyush997 said:
*Phew* You just saved those 19k
BTW Get LG L9 as you got no device now or else you can get some ultra cheapo mobile to pass a month or two (NOt Cool though) and wait for Xperia L
Your choice!

I just said Xperia L's screen size is too short for me... :/

^^ OP If you want an S3 wait for the official release of S4 the price can ditch to 20k probably just wait for it.

And Beware there are many used mobiles which is revamped by putting the new cover and factory reseted selling in new boxes.

And Beware there are many used mobiles which is revamped by putting the new cover and factory reseted selling in new boxes.

101gamzer said:
^^ OP If you want an S3 wait for the official release of S4 the price can ditch to 20k probably just wait for it.

And Beware there are many used mobiles which is revamped by putting the new cover and factory reseted selling in new boxes.

And Beware there are many used mobiles which is revamped by putting the new cover and factory reseted selling in new boxes.

20k | Impossible. Period.

May be then 25 or 27k

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pratyush997 said:
20k | Impossible. Period.

So, which phone should I buy now? I need something for a few months right now...

EDIT: I just checked out L9's benchmark scores, it cannot be compared to Canvas HD (if we leave customer support aside).

yearcut said:
So, which phone should I buy now? (I'll buy S3 or S4 later, when I get a job and start earning myself)

EDIT: I just checked out L9's benchmark scores, it cannot be compared to Canvas HD (if we leave customer support aside).

Well If you could extend a budget by 4k, You can get hands on Nexus 4 (W/o warranty ofc.)

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pratyush997 said:
Well If you could extend a budget by 4k, You can get hands on Nexus 4 (W/o warranty ofc.)

Where can I buy it at that price?

yearcut said:
Where can I buy it at that price?

PPOBox !
TDF Thread | Xda thread | Link | Link 2

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Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

yearcut said:
Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

Because of its Ultra VFM property

yearcut said:
Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

Dude, if you see in recent threads, we are suggesting everyone with same budget to wait and go for Xperia L. That means Sony have paid us to say so? It's all just there is no worthy phone under 20k segment, even till 25k untill SP release. Simple as that.

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yearcut said:
Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

Users have Warned You More Than 5 Times About S3 Still You Are Telling That "It Is Tempting",I Know What You Are Thinking,You Want To Show Off Your Phone To Your Friends After 10th.There Is Nothing Wrong In Your Thinking But Be In Control Man,You Want To Buy S3 For 19k,Go Buy It And Waste Your Money,Oh Sorry,Your Father's Money. :banghead:

When Many Users Are Suggesting L9,It Means That It Is Seriously A Good Device Below 20k.(Or Wait For SXL)
We Did Our Work To Suggest A Good Device To You,Rest Depends On You.No One Can Change Your Mind,Except You Yourself.
We Suggest A Device According To OP's Budget.
Back On Topic Please. :aaargh:

yearcut said:
Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

Good Lord

RiGOD said:
Good Lord

Same here, when i first read. But we have seen a lot worse than this.

LMAO.

I suggested the L9 a lot of times too, so does that mean LG paid me?

randomuser111 said:
LMAO.

I suggested the L9 a lot of times too, so does that mean LG paid me?

SO Sony and LG, both will pay you :-x

Now you got paid by LG & Sony. I am jealous.

@OP BUY L9(lets see if i get paid

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Yep

Just received the cheques from both Sony and LG.

randomuser111 said:
Yep

Just received the cheques from both Sony and LG.

Lol
Wait a month and then buy SXL
(now i will too get cheques from Sony yeah

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yearcut said:
Offtopic - Is there a reason why the whole ThinkDigit Forum (at least the Buying Advice subforum) is obessed with LG L9? I was just reading some threads and found out that 80% of the threads have LG L9 suggested. Everywhere I see LG L9 L9 L9 . .. I'm just curious if LG have paid you or I think like some forums, this one have a sort of "peer pressure".

randomuser111 said:
Yep
Just received the cheques from both Sony and LG.

my cheques are pending :cry:

. guess i'll stop suggesting sony n lg and switch to mmx/spice :rofl:

Damn...mere xolo ke cheques bounce ho gaye

Empirial said:
Damn...mere xolo ke cheques bounce ho gaye

What do you expect from XOLO?

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Empirial said:
Damn...mere xolo ke cheques bounce ho gaye

Lol.. this made me lol in reallife.. Anyway, thankyou guys for your help!

I've decided to wait for 2 weeks then either go for L9 or if Xperia SL releases then SL (I doubt it'll cost less than 15K which is my budget). Or I'll buy MMX Canvas HD (I know after sale service sucks, but I'll use this as a temporary device until I get a better one)...

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yearcut said:
Lol.. this made me lol in reallife.. Anyway, thankyou guys for your help! I've decided to wait for 2 weeks then either go for L9 or if Xperia SL releases then SL (I doubt it'll cost less than 15K which is my budget). Or I'll buy MMX Canvas HD (I know after sale service sucks, but I'll use this as a temporary device until I get a better one)...

I Think That You Are Talking About Xperia L :-?

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Xperia SL was launched in 2012 and is now "Out of Stock" on most online stores.

You are definitely talking about Xperia L, right??

priyankgupta said:
Xperia SL was launched in 2012 and is now "Out of Stock" on most online stores.
You are definitely talking about Xperia L, right??

He was talking about X: L i guess. I mean, look at his budget, and no way in his right mind he will talk about a phone which is way out of his budget.

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furious_gamer said:
He was talking about X: L i guess. I mean, look at his budget, and no way in his right mind he will talk about a phone which is way out of his budget.

Yeah, I was talking about X: L, my bad.

I tried googling about X: L and SP's expected price, but almost all of the results stated that the price is not disclosed yet. What if I wait all those long weeks for it, and when it is launched the price is out of my budget (15,000) ..?

Maybe I should just settle with MMX Canvas HD for a while till I get myself a job, or dad gets happy and buy me an expensive phone :-D

. The XDA Forums seems very active for Canvas. The big screen and high resolution at 14,500/- seems good. The resell value is good for this phone too, as If I want to buy an international branded phone in future, I may sell it for a considerable money easily. What do you think?

I'll be rooting the phone, so update delay from MMX doesn't matter.

(and, Happy Holi !!

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It's upto you now. HS18 got a deal for LG L9 @ 14.5k. I'd suggest you to go to that anyday.