Your impression of Panasonic Eluga S ( Moto G fans, stay away !)

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Guys need a new phone. Currently using Xiaomi Mi3 with kitkat. Will give it to my wife as she needs to get rid of her windows phone.

1. Budget?
A. 14k

2. Display type and size?
A. 5 ". Max is 5" Not anymore.

3. Dual sim?
A. Fine with both single and dual sim.

4. Preferred choice of brand?
A. My first preference is Panasonic Eluga S. Panasonic Eluga S Price in India - Buy Panasonic Eluga S White 8 GB Online - Panasonic : Flipkart.com
Only tier 1 brands like Samsung, Sony, Asus, HTC (worried of support in Kolkata), NO MOTO G because of high SAR VALUE

5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)?
A. 8 MP primary and 5 MP secondary camera, 1080p video recording with HDR.

6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc).
A. Android only. Fine with both Kitkat and lolipop.

7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready).
A. Currently will be using only 3g/wifi.

8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)?
A. In order of preference: Listening to music, Browsing, phone calls, mails, facebook, whatsapp, camera, and other apps. Not a gamer by any means. May play games once in a while or so like Asphalt or Drone Shadow strike.

9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?
A. S3 Neo Asus Zenphone 5 (new version with 1.2 Ghz clock speed) Asus Zenfone 5 A501CG Price in India - Buy Asus Zenfone 5 A501CG Black 8 GB Online - Asus : Flipkart.com

10. Any other info that you want to share
A. On an average the phone will be used for calls, browsing and social networking like facebook and whatsapp. Need a good battery life that lasts for one working day.

Asus Zenfone 5: get the older version with 1.6 ghz clocks. newer version won't have earphones included, other than that, its ok.
S3 Neo: crap, price slashed by 50% in 8 months after launch, currently close to Moto G's pricing (I'm not even bringing in Redmi 1s in the argument

). won't receive any updates. Also that resource hog crapwiz.
Low end phones from Sony, HTC lack good specifications and don't receive bug free updates.

Panasonic as a phone OEM, that phone isn't even on gsmarena :lol:

How far is the Zenphone 2 launch date ?

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@ SaiyanGoku thanks, I was also skeptical about Panasonic. Actually one of my colleague is using Asus Zenphone 5, he is very disappointed with Battery back up. Does not run more than 18 hrs. Brightness level has to be kept very low. It will be problematic for me as I stay out from 6am to 6.30 pm. I'm also waiting eagerly for Zenphone 2.

rdx_halo said:
@ SaiyanGoku thanks, I was also skeptical about Panasonic. Actually one of my colleague is using Asus Zenphone 5, he is very disappointed with Battery back up. Does not run more than 18 hrs. Brightness level has to be kept very low. It will be problematic for me as I stay out from 6am to 6.30 pm. I'm also waiting eagerly for Zenphone 2.

It's not the phone's fault that battery backup is apparently low. Apps running in background will use battery no matter what. Ask your colleague to install Greenify and hibernate all user apps. Then see his battery backup. It will increase dramatically. My phone has the same 2100 mAh battery like Zenphone 5 and I'm able to get 1.5 days of battery life with 5 hours on screen time easily.

*www.digit.in/forum/mobiles-tablets...iscussion-thread-post2196990.html#post2196990

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SaiyanGoku said:
It's not the phone's fault that battery backup is apparently low. Apps running in background will use battery no matter what. Ask you colleague to install Greenify and hibernate all user apps. Then see his battery backup. It will increase dramatically. My phone has the same 2100 mAh battery like Zenphone 5 and I'm able to get 1.5 days of battery life with 5 hours on screen time easily.

*www.digit.in/forum/mobiles-tablets...iscussion-thread-post2196990.html#post2196990

Thanks, what phone are you using ? Whats your opinion abt galaxy grand prime ? Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime review: Mirror shot - GSMArena.com

rdx_halo said:
Thanks, what phone are you using ? Whats your opinion abt galaxy grand prime ? Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime review: Mirror shot - GSMArena.com

LG Optimus G E970

If I had a choice, I'd buy Zenphone 5/ Moto G over any samdung phone.
On an average, they launched an android phone every week last year (source: Phone Finder results - GSMArena.com )

They don't update their phones except flagships and you already know about the way they keep dropping the prices.

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rdx_halo said:
Thanks, what phone are you using ? Whats your opinion abt galaxy grand prime ? Samsung Galaxy Grand Prime review: Mirror shot - GSMArena.com

He is a troll. Jeez! See a user's previous posts before taking valuable suggestions! He suggests Xiaomi, Redmi crap loads to users who don't follow Digit members closely.

S3 Neo, Grand Prime, Moto G, ZenFone 5 all are good phones. As you need 8 mp rear camera definitely the suggestion would be S3 Neo and ZenFone 5.

Here is the Amazon reviews of Eluga S, Panasonic Eluga S (Black): Buy Panasonic Eluga S (Black) Online at Low Price in India - Amazon.in

If ZenFone 5 is good phone, common sense says a Panasonic phone won't be much behind.

eureka said:
He is a troll. Jeez! See a user's previous posts before taking valuable suggestions! He suggests Xiaomi, Redmi crap loads to users who don't follow Digit members closely.

S3 Neo, Grand Prime, Moto G, ZenFone 5 all are good phones. As you need 8 mp rear camera definitely the suggestion would be S3 Neo and ZenFone 5.

Here is the Amazon reviews of Eluga S, Panasonic Eluga S (Black): Buy Panasonic Eluga S (Black) Online at Low Price in India - Amazon.in

If ZenFone 5 is good phone, common sense says a Panasonic phone won't be much behind.

If you got a problem with me, quote/tag me directly, else stfu.
Try to find a phone with same or better specifications from samsung, htc, sony and lg under 12k, that too for a person who has low budget of 5-6k and willing to increase. The reason I didn't bring Redmi 1s earlier into the argument is because the OP has good enough budget. It has the best hardware for a sub 8k phone and as for MIUI, though I hate it and find it bloated but not on crapwiz's level of over-bloat, its good enough for a first time buyer. If it had stock android, Moto G would come into overpriced category.

I've seen my friends and acquaintances buy different samsung phones from 8k to 20k budget even though they were advised against it and then after 2-3 months wanting to throw it in trash because of lagwiz, low performance, scratched screens (aforementioned Grand Prime lack Gorilla Glass or any sort of protection), scratched bodies, low internal space for apps, frequent hanging, being stuck on JB/KK with no chance of getting official updates.

Don't trust reviews from users who buy phones just by watching TV ads. If the phone is good enough, why am I unable to find its details on gsmarena?
[MENTION=148475]rdx_halo[/MENTION], I'm not going to earn anything whether you buy Asus Zenphone 5 or Samdung galaxy grand prime mega core pro mini star ace neo max style whatever and then see its price going down by 3-4k within weeks after you've bought it. Its solely your decision.

Sd400 is anytime better than the samsung own in house processors. Now coming to the performance of S3 neo so it is ot that great of a phone to invest over moto g 2014 or even redmi 1s since these will be going for a official lollipop rom but s3 neo is a big no. Unless a person is willing to a root which again be a problem since s3 neo do not have a great dev support where as moto g 2014 still has. And since lollipop the it is performing better than n5 in day to day tasks. I know this thread was not to praaise moto g but I got to get some facts right. And also try to respect the members who are here much before you even joined.

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He is not a troll eureka, he puts reason behind any recommendation. The problem is that apart from moto g and Asus, no tier 1 company offers 2 GB ram, 720p display, 8 mp camera, snapdragon 400 or higher processor, gorilla glass3, minimum 2100 battery backup, and most importantly android lollipop update. A smart phone remains relevant and new as long as it receives software updates. So he is right about Samsung. Instead of updating software, it just churns out new models every month. Albeit, moto g is a great phone, but I'm going to be a farther soon. Don't want to use a phone with such a high SAR value near infant. Otherwise I would have gone for moto g. Its true that apart from moto g, there is no better phone than Asus zenphon 5 in that price bracket. Had zenphone 2 available now, I wouldn't hesitate so much.
BTW, Micromax also uses OEM model?

Samsung's smartphone primacy under threat - TOI Mobile | The Times of India Mobile Site

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Just found this one. No word on price yet. If it's below 15k will go for it Samsung Galaxy Grand Max Price in India on 30 January 2015, Galaxy Grand Max Release Date and Specifications | 91mobiles.com

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rdx_halo said:
Just found this one. No word on price yet. If it's below 15k will go for it Samsung Galaxy Grand Max Price in India on 30 January 2015, Galaxy Grand Max Release Date and Specifications | 91mobiles.com

avoid it trust me,touchwiz is really sluggish and the grand series arent worth it
get One Plus One or even Mi4 instead of grand max/prime

rdx_halo said:
Just found this one. No word on price yet. If it's below 15k will go for it Samsung Galaxy Grand Max Price in India on 30 January 2015, Galaxy Grand Max Release Date and Specifications | 91mobiles.com

Grand Prime with 8 MP camera, 540p screen and 1 GB ram is around 15k.
Going by the trends shown by samdung, Grand Max with 13 MP camera, 720p screen and 1.5 GB ram will have around 25k launch price, which will be slashed to 20-22k within 2-3 months.

Don't wait for another overpriced crap from samdung.

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edit: STILL NO GORILLA GLASS 3

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x 9000

lenovo a6000...will be soon reviewed by me

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kARTechnology said:
lenovo a6000...will be soon reviewed by me

Please review it... looks enticing .... :wow:

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Lenovo A6000 is awesome!!specs and build quality are great for the price
only concern is if Lenovo will continue to release updates or if custom roms such as CM will add support

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kkn13 said:
Lenovo A6000 is awesome!!specs and build quality are great for the price
only concern is if Lenovo will continue to release updates or if custom roms such as CM will add support

Have you seen this phone? My concern is only 1 GB ram and camera quality of lenovo. Will it get lollipop update? Now I have two choices Asus zenfone 5 vs lenovo A6000. Lenovo does not have gorilla glass protection.

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rdx_halo said:
Have you seen this phone? My concern is only 1 GB ram and camera quality of lenovo. Will it get lollipop update? Now I have two choices Asus zenfone 5 vs lenovo A6000. Lenovo does not have gorilla glass protection.

this is the exact question everyones asking about this phone right now
from my own experience with Lenovos android offerings,their stock rom-idea desktop is really slow and laggy(changing the launcher helps alot) and they dont really update their older products
though the same question about updates is there for Asus as well though they have been releasing updates so far
camera quality wont be great on either but it should be better on asus
battery life will be better on Lenovo i guess

I can say one thing for sure,both phones are much much better buys than phones like panasonic eluga s or samsungs offerings
Moto G 2014 is a fine phone for the price but overheating issues(not as much as Redmi 1s etc but still hot) and SAR issues are the only things bringing it down,infact my friend bought the Moto G 2013 instead(limited time offer on flipkart) for the same reason and because he wanted a smaller phone

I think overall Zenfone 5 is a winner other than battery life(get a powerbank,i suggest xiaomi 5200mah -Rs600 or 10400mah -Rs900

I will wait for windows 10 devices for the budget sector.

Asus Zenphone 2 will trump them all (199$ variant)

Very VFM IMO, im waiting for the indian launch right now, hopefully the 2 GB 1080p variant will launch at a respectable price <Rs 15k

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Nerevarine said:
Asus Zenphone 2 will trump them all (199$ variant)

Yes very true. I think I will wait for it, but till then I have to use a Sony Ericsson dumb phone. Zenfone 5, I can't live with battery problem. Power bank is not practical for me. How is redmi 1s? Mi phones have slightly low network power as I have experienced from my mi3. If I enter a large building, the signal drops significantly to one/two bar. And if the signal is itself on the lower side, I don't get coverage.

rdx_halo said:
Yes very true. I think I will wait for it, but till then I have to use a Sony Ericsson dumb phone. Zenfone 5, I can't live with battery problem. Power bank is not practical for me. How is redmi 1s? Mi phones have slightly low network power as I have experienced from my mi3. If I enter a large building, the signal drops significantly to one/two bar. And if the signal is itself on the lower side, I don't get coverage.

Well that is many times network provider problem since the phones are rarely culprit of these situation.

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$hadow said:
Well that is many times network provider problem since the phones are rarely culprit of these situation.

no actually in this case,Xiaomi does have known network issues which they have refused to address(my friends experience with mi3's speaker and reception was bad,he ended up selling it to get a Moto G 2013)

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rdx_halo said:
Yes very true. I think I will wait for it, but till then I have to use a Sony Ericsson dumb phone. Zenfone 5, I can't live with battery problem. Power bank is not practical for me. How is redmi 1s? Mi phones have slightly low network power as I have experienced from my mi3. If I enter a large building, the signal drops significantly to one/two bar. And if the signal is itself on the lower side, I don't get coverage.

Redmi 1s has the same issues + overheating

rdx_halo said:
Have you seen this phone? My concern is only 1 GB ram and camera quality of lenovo. Will it get lollipop update? Now I have two choices Asus zenfone 5 vs lenovo A6000. Lenovo does not have gorilla glass protection.

don't worry about glass, every gorrilla glass breaks, though it "does not break"
my Xperia M with TFT screen with a scratchguard fell from from 1st floor in a duplex house and nothing happened. i am using s-line tpu case which protects all sides(including buttons)

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$hadow said:
Well that is many times network provider problem since the phones are rarely culprit of these situation.

No buddy, me and my friend are using same network. Compared with him in same location. Its not very problematic in mi3 but in redmi 1s is really a concern. Googled and found a lot of Indian threads discussing these problem.
Actually, moto g is best but I have to get an alternative....

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rdx_halo said:
No buddy, me and my friend are using same network. Compared with him in same location. Its not very problematic in mi3 but in redmi 1s is really a concern. Googled and found a lot of Indian threads discussing these problem.
Actually, moto g is best but I have to get an alternative....

I suggest you wait for better handsets(Zenfone 2 etc) or increase your budget so you get a phone to tick all the right boxes for you(One Plus One etc) instead of "settling" for phones with issues(battery,reception,overheating,Roms etc)

kARTechnology said:
don't worry about glass, every gorrilla glass breaks, though it "does not break"
my Xperia M with TFT screen with a scratchguard fell from from 1st floor in a duplex house and nothing happened. i am using s-line tpu case which protects all sides(including buttons)

Its not about breaking issue. Its about screen getting scratched with normal usage. I've demonstrated the quality of screen used in both Redmi 1s and my E970 to my relatives using keys, fingernails, coins, knife and a screwdriver which were unable to scratch any of them. When I asked them whether they'll do this to their phones, they said "it'll scratch it badly if not split the screen in half" :lol:

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SaiyanGoku said:
Its not about breaking issue. Its about screen getting scratched with normal usage. I've demonstrated the quality of screen used in both Redmi 1s and my E970 to my relatives using keys, fingernails, coins, knife and a screwdriver which were unable to scratch any of them. When I asked them whether they'll do this to their phones, they said "it'll scratch it badly if not split the screen in half"

yep I can confirm what [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] says is true,as well
I have a Lumia 820 and a 720
820 doesnt have gorilla glass despite being a "high end phone"(was priced at 32k earlier)
720 has gorilla glass and cost me 20k
the 820 has alot of scratches whereas my 720 is spotless

oh I have no idea that Xiaomi has network issue coz now a days it is service provider fault more than the phone if you have crappy signal.

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$hadow said:
oh I have no idea that Xiaomi has network issue coz now a days it is service provider fault more than the phone if you have crappy signal.

yep im facing it myself on my phones
Lumia 720 on Idea,820 on airtel and Nexus 5 on vodafone and all three have terrible issues this month
I live in the heart of Mumbai and still I have issues
itll show full bars etc on all 3 phones and when i try to call someone,it just goes blank or says "call dropped" and data etc says no connection despite full bars
the only solution is to keep checking for "call drop" and a reboot to bring back network
This is really pathetic and unreliable especially in a city like Mumbai where youd expect atleast some amount of better service

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Asus zenfone 5
Lenovo a6000
Yu Yureka
Which among these offer most stable ui and os?
Nowadays most budget handsets offer good specs but I came to realize that a stable os is most important.

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kkn13 said:
yep I can confirm what [MENTION=145143]SaiyanGoku[/MENTION] says is true,as well
I have a Lumia 820 and a 720
820 doesnt have gorilla glass despite being a "high end phone"(was priced at 32k earlier)
720 has gorilla glass and cost me 20k
the 820 has alot of scratches whereas my 720 is spotless

Yes, even my wife's lumia 520 has toughened glass, not gorilla Glass. Even after 1.5 years it's still scratch less. Gorilla glass is a very necessary feature, but unfortunately, like helmet people don't realize how important they are!

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rdx_halo said:
Asus zenfone 5
Lenovo a6000
Yu Yureka
Which among these offer most stable ui and os?
Nowadays most budget handsets offer good specs but I came to realize that a stable os is most important.

Yu Yureka has CM which is the best iteration of android,followed by Zenfone's Zen UI(out of the phones mentioned that is)
overall Zenfone is the best option
I dont really trust MMX products reliability though software wise Yureka is the best,not hardware wise(build quality etc)
Id still suggest increasing your budget and getting a One Plus One for the CM experience and a jump in build quality if you are keen on good software in the phone

kkn13 said:
Yu Yureka has CM which is the best iteration of android,followed by Zenfone's Zen UI(out of the phones mentioned that is)
overall Zenfone is the best option
I dont really trust MMX products reliability though software wise Yureka is the best,not hardware wise(build quality etc)
Id still suggest increasing your budget and getting a One Plus One for the CM experience and a jump in build quality if you are keen on good software in the phone

Oneplus One costs 22k while Yu Yureka is 9k. That's a difference of 13k.

@OP, If you can get Yureka, get it. Even though it has sd615, its a risky purchase. I wanted to get one to test it out but couldn't because people who want to leech off it keep buying it in huge numbers.

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SaiyanGoku said:
Oneplus One costs 22k while Yu Yureka is 9k. That's a difference of 13k.

@OP, If you can get Yureka, get it. Even though it has sd615, its a risky purchase. I wanted to get one to test it out but couldn't because people who want to leech off it keep buying it in huge numbers.

yeah i know
i meant if someone really wants CM and a good phone,budget aside,the OPO is a safer bet

kkn13 said:
yep im facing it myself on my phones
Lumia 720 on Idea,820 on airtel and Nexus 5 on vodafone and all three have terrible issues this month
I live in the heart of Mumbai and still I have issues
itll show full bars etc on all 3 phones and when i try to call someone,it just goes blank or says "call dropped" and data etc says no connection despite full bars
the only solution is to keep checking for "call drop" and a reboot to bring back network
This is really pathetic and unreliable especially in a city like Mumbai where youd expect atleast some amount of better service

Too bad. i once had similar expeiance with Reliance and ported to Airtel and since then journey has been fun.

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$hadow said:
Too bad. i once had similar expeiance with Reliance and ported to Airtel and since then journey has been fun.

its sad that such issues keep happening,i mean a phone has become a necessity of sorts nowadays
even if data refuses to work i can understand but calls should atleast work
more than the social aspect (which imho is something we shouldnt rely on solely) ,its a means of communication during an emergency

kkn13 said:
its sad that such issues keep happening,i mean a phone has become a necessity of sorts nowadays
even if data refuses to work i can understand but calls should atleast work
more than the social aspect (which imho is something we shouldnt rely on solely) ,its a means of communication during an emergency

Looks like I need to start using pager for emergency. :-D

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$hadow said:
Looks like I need to start using pager for emergency.

yeah

or landlines only!!

kkn13 said:
yeah
or landlines only!!

BSNL landlines suck big time. Mine has a tendency to stop woking for a average of 3 to 4 days a month.

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$hadow said:
BSNL landlines suck big time. Mine has a tendency to stop woking for a average of 3 to 4 days a month.

same with MTNL Mumbai

@mods clean the thread please.

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Still waiting for pricing and release date of zenfone 2. As soon as it will be launched, I'm expecting a price cut in zenfone 5. BTW, any one got hands on lenovo a6000 ? Given the fact that motorola is now owned by lenovo, I think it can be a good set.

Update 4/2/15: will probably go for zenfone 5 with 1.2 GHz Intel Processor version. Its 7999/- on Flipkart. I will give it to my wife, specs are good for her as she does not game, no Facebook or any other app. Only for camera And music. It will suit her Best. I will keep my Mi3 for now. My precious....