Z2 or M8 or Moto X which oe to buy.

1. Budget? 50k (would love to spend less)
2. Display type and size? 5+
3. Dual sim?No
4. Preferred choice of brand? Only renounced companies.
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? Good camera
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc). Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready). 4G
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? Multimedia, Browising Camera and gaming in the order of priority
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?Z2, M8 New moto x
10. Any other info that you want to share: Earlier I was looking for Nexus 6 but since the leak it is clear that I am not going for it. Also please avoid G3 since it's boot loader is still a problem to be cracked by devs. A good dev support is also a priority.

Z3 compact! the best you can get

theserpent said:
Z3 compact! the best you can get

That one is smaller than 5" not for me.

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$hadow said:
1. Budget? 50k (would love to spend less)
2. Display type and size? 5+
3. Dual sim?No
4. Preferred choice of brand? Only renounced companies.
5. What camera option you want (flash, front facing camera)? Good camera
6. Preferred operating system? (Android, iOS, Windows Phone, etc). Android
7. Preferred connectivity options (3G, 4G ready). 4G
8. Primary use of handset (multimedia, camera, internet, gaming etc)? Multimedia, Browising Camera and gaming in the order of priority
9. Any specific mobile phones in consideration?Z2, M8 New moto x
10. Any other info that you want to share: Earlier I was looking for Nexus 6 but since the leak it is clear that I am not going for it. Also please avoid G3 since it's boot loader is still a problem to be cracked by devs. A good dev support is also a priority.

Moto X or M8,they are your best bet!!both will have great dev support etc
xperia has the self cracking screen issue
*www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=ch...v=2&ie=UTF-8#q=xperia z2 self cracking screen

kkn13 said:
Moto X or M8,they are your best bet!!both will have great dev support etc
xperia has the self cracking screen issue
*www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=ch...v=2&ie=UTF-8#q=xperia z2 self cracking screen

z2 keep getting worse. Earlier I was worried about it over heating issue and now this screen.

So with z2 eliminated ,
go with Moto X

+1 to Moto X

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$hadow said:
z2 keep getting worse. Earlier I was worried about it over heating issue and now this screen.

yeah just last week someone in TDF was having the exact issue with the screen and wanted to know what he could do next
we suggested he fire off an email to sony or use akosha

So now I am left with Moto X and One m8. But moto x still has small battery and it would surely impact on it. Now what does you guys suggest?

K

Moto X has an inbuilt feature called Volta!

It optimized processor and graphics!

Many people are getting full day battery!

expect Android L to optimize 30% battery of L!

go ahead!

R

discard moto x . battery and no 32 gb killed it..

why not go for nexus 6 ? its only 15-20 days away

rish said:
discard moto x . battery and no 32 gb killed it..

why not go for nexus 6 ? its only 15-20 days away

5.9" too big. Max for me is 5.5"

But m8 has cool features/sensors and amazing dual camera with dual flash<< This stand out from crowd.
But Moto X would simple be humble dumble ..
I guess HTC m8 would be great.
There are good in detail comparison :
1>Gizmag
2>gottabemoblie

abhigeek said:
But m8 has cool features/sensors and amazing dual camera with dual flash<< This stand out from crowd.
But Moto X would simple be humble dumble ..
I guess HTC m8 would be great.
There are good in detail comparison :
1>Gizmag
2>gottabemoblie

done with comparison. I prefer the standalone features according to my preference but thanks for share.

$hadow If want features then go with M8
:wink:

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$hadow said:
5.9" too big. Max for me is 5.5"

there will be a 5.2 version as well..

don't worry

Just saw on my friend new Moto X it has got only 9.7 GB free usable space :shock:

Get Z3c you'll love compact beast.

I would personally suggest that you wait for a month & get Xperia Z3. M8's camera sucks. (GSMArena didn't even consider it good enough to put it in comparison with other flagship phones during their camera shootout)
Camera shootout: Six enter, only one leaves - GSMArena.com

No SD card slot in Moto X is a big disappointment, otherwise it's good enough

But sony hasn't made that heating issue set right. If I wait I would end up by the month delay but looks like this year is yet not great in terms of good phones.

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i wouldnt believe gsmarena as a reliable source they were proved to be biased in the past,rather check out mobile nations reviews(androidcentral etc)
they arent biased and are reliable
*www.google.co.in/webhp?sourceid=ch...N0537&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=gsmarena+biased

Damian Dinning confirms all the photos on Lumia 920’s product page are real. | NPU

OK, if people think GSMArena is biased because it always gives good reviews to Samsung n Apple, consider this....... I would anyday prefer S4 over Z1, just because of Touchwiz, smaller dimensions & lighter in terms of weight. There are many others like me who don't want a stylish phone, just a feature packed phone (i prefer smaller dimensions too).
As far as Apples are considered, once just for a short time, GSMArena published in their blog that they had to bias the iPhone 4s vs S3 comparison, just because Tim Cook threatened them not to send a review unit again.

I find GSMArena more reliable than digit. I was sure of digit's biasing once i saw that HP's some model was rated higher than Lenovo Y500, a year ago for gaming, even though Y500 had better GPU & FHD screen.

Where there is light, there is darkness. Even if you try to do something good, some people will surely disagree with you

For companies like Sammy and Apple the reviews are biased and one has to agree with it coz they are no a small companies. Phoneareana also sometimes does the same when it comes to review but I mainly beleive two reviews ie Michel Fisher at pocketnow and MKBHD.

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they dont do research properly
for eg-
the lumia 1020 shutter speed etc is only slow on the nokia camera app,if they use the native one its blazing fast but you lose some of the manual functions

plus they didnt even mention how oversatured and unnatural the samsungs sensor is,its a fact that samsungs products are tweaked to be extra colourful but real photo enthusiasts will tell you that its oversaturated and has unnatural colours

they did not mention that the G3 sensor takes time to focus for certain shots

they also said lumias panaroma wasnt good,which isnt true at all,its actually a great panaroma app and very easy to use

they didnt mention that the 5S has the fastest shutter and focus speed among all the phones and also didnt mention that the 5S photos arent that great when compared to the others,especially in low light where iphone,G3 and S5 struggle and take burst flash shots which arent exactly great ,the lumia,xperia and the oppo shine in this area and take very natural low light shots with very desirable effects,sometimes even comparable to a low end DSLR

gsmarena seems biased enough to me,rather follow threads where real users post their comparisons

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$hadow said:
For companies like Sammy and Apple the reviews are biased and one has to agree with it coz they are no a small companies. Phoneareana also sometimes does the same when it comes to review but I mainly beleive two reviews ie Michel Fisher at pocketnow and MKBHD.

+1000000
same here
michael fischer is the best reviewer ive seen so far for phones !!
he actually uses the phones for a period of time sometimes and reposts his views as well

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however many flaws the z2 has ,its actually got the best camera of the three though i still wouldnt recommend it
the m8 camera resolution is a put off and 3D is more gimmicky than functional but on the whole a great phone otherwise even for battery life
moto x is also a very balanced phone but lack of sd card and dual core is a put off for some(though it actually houses a very powerful krait dual core,comparable to most quad cores)

kkn13 said:
they dont do research properly
for eg-
the lumia 1020 shutter speed etc is only slow on the nokia camera app,if they use the native one its blazing fast but you lose some of the manual functions

plus they didnt even mention how oversatured and unnatural the samsungs sensor is,its a fact that samsungs products are tweaked to be extra colourful but real photo enthusiasts will tell you that its oversaturated and has unnatural colours

they did not mention that the G3 sensor takes time to focus for certain shots

they also said lumias panaroma wasnt good,which isnt true at all,its actually a great panaroma app and very easy to use

they didnt mention that the 5S has the fastest shutter and focus speed among all the phones and also didnt mention that the 5S photos arent that great when compared to the others,especially in low light where iphone,G3 and S5 struggle and take burst flash shots which arent exactly great ,the lumia,xperia and the oppo shine in this area and take very natural low light shots with very desirable effects,sometimes even comparable to a low end DSLR

gsmarena seems biased enough to me,rather follow threads where real users post their comparisons

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same here
michael fischer is the best reviewer ive seen so far for phones !!
he actually uses the phones for a period of time sometimes and reposts his views as well

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however many flaws the z2 has ,its actually got the best camera of the three though i still wouldnt recommend it
the m8 camera resolution is a put off and 3D is more gimmicky than functional but on the whole a great phone otherwise even for battery life
moto x is also a very balanced phone but lack of sd card and dual core is a put off for some(though it actually houses a very powerful krait dual core,comparable to most quad cores)

Dude forget all about Moto X but with only 9.7 GB free I don't even have a second thought on that phone. I was expecting atleast 11 GB. Good news is that LG might make the boot-loader unlocked since there is agitation going against it.

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$hadow said:
Dude forget all about Moto X but with only 9.7 GB free I don't even have a second thought on that phone. I was expecting atleast 11 GB. Good news is that LG might make the boot-loader unlocked since there is agitation going against it.

for the G3 you mean?
i think its a great buy,my friend bought the G3 and G watch,its great!!

kkn13 said:
for the G3 you mean?
i think its a great buy,my friend bought the G3 and G watch,its great!!

Damm still can't decide. This year was just like a meh in terms of phones.

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$hadow said:
Damm still can't decide. This year was just like a meh in terms of phones.

yeah G3 is impressive though,one of the few phones to awe me since the last 2 years
love the flip case design etc
its much more convenient than samsungs flip case or even m8s dot view case which dont have much practicality for camera etc

$hadow said:
Damm still can't decide. This year was just like a meh in terms of phones.

Lol. Deciding is the hardest factor

It's simple though. Get the M8 if you want the best craftsmanship, best built, best speakers, and probably the best skinned Android and lots of XDA support. Needless to say you will have a sub par camera (I am not a believer in higher megapixels crap, but still hTC's Ultra Pixel is just plain nonsense), and poor GPS lock (4-5 times slower than a polycarbonate / plastic phone).

Get the G3 if you want the phone with best screen to body ratio, and also I love the design, it looks really elegant, at least to my eyes. QHD display, I hate that, but some things will be crispier, like texts and stuffs. But it has poor contrast ratio. The camera IMHO is very good, not as good as Z2 or S5, but it has OIS, which every flagship phone SHOULD have. Now about the bad part, just look at XDA, there is one kernel, and it also doesn't work nice (you will have to reflash the kernel each time you reboot the phone, WTF!), and I personally have no idea about LG's skin. Some says it's a hybrid of TouchWiz and LG's own skin, but if YouTube reviews are to believed then I found it as slow as TouchWiz! I could be wrong here though.

Moto X 2014, well, if you are on a budget then this is the phone to get. A balanced phone, with best optimization you can ever get. The screen is extremely saturated, which is a negative, but well it depends on your usage pattern. The screen to body ratio is great too, it's actually slightly smaller than S5 and has 0.1" more display size. That outer aluminium frame works as an antenna and looks sleek too. All the Moto features are nice. But that camera. In simple word, it is not worthy of a flagship camera, as simple as that. G3, Z2, S5 they all are miles better, and even G2, S4 are too. So if you can trade off the camera part, then get it, you will love it.

Z2, IMHO the best camera (I don't care about out of the phone shots, every person can do some tiny bit of editing), a nice IPS display, stereo speakers, however not that loud, IP67 certification, if that matters, a nice looking phone, however glass build, and it's a Sony after all, keeping aside my fanboysim

But poor screen to body ratio, the phone is bloody big being a 5.1" one. And there is DoomLord in XDA, so the kernel management is checked.

Read the G3 vs Z2 review extensively, and separately too, and I think I personally am going for the Z2. There is a trade off or a drawback in each phone, just get the one which has less in number, according to your priority of course.

Please factor in Android L update also. This is the order how they will get the L update.

Moto X > HTC One M8 > G3 > Z2.

xtremevicky said:
Please factor in Android L update also. This is the order how they will get the L update.

Moto X > HTC One M8 > G3 > Z2.

Totally agree with this.

reasons against phones
1. Moto X: usable memory only 9.7 GB, small battery and poor camera
2. Htc one m8: Just one problem ie Camera
3. G3: Qhd display on SD 801 not great and bootloader locked
4. Z2: From what I read it is plagued with problems such as over heating, self cracking and over that Z3 already launched so it is outdated.

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ithehappy said:
Lol. Deciding is the hardest factor

It's simple though. Get the M8 if you want the best craftsmanship, best built, best speakers, and probably the best skinned Android and lots of XDA support. Needless to say you will have a sub par camera (I am not a believer in higher megapixels crap, but still hTC's Ultra Pixel is just plain nonsense), and poor GPS lock (4-5 times slower than a polycarbonate / plastic phone).

Get the G3 if you want the phone with best screen to body ratio, and also I love the design, it looks really elegant, at least to my eyes. QHD display, I hate that, but some things will be crispier, like texts and stuffs. But it has poor contrast ratio. The camera IMHO is very good, not as good as Z2 or S5, but it has OIS, which every flagship phone SHOULD have. Now about the bad part, just look at XDA, there is one kernel, and it also doesn't work nice (you will have to reflash the kernel each time you reboot the phone, WTF!), and I personally have no idea about LG's skin. Some says it's a hybrid of TouchWiz and LG's own skin, but if YouTube reviews are to believed then I found it as slow as TouchWiz! I could be wrong here though.

Moto X 2014, well, if you are on a budget then this is the phone to get. A balanced phone, with best optimization you can ever get. The screen is extremely saturated, which is a negative, but well it depends on your usage pattern. The screen to body ratio is great too, it's actually slightly smaller than S5 and has 0.1" more display size. That outer aluminium frame works as an antenna and looks sleek too. All the Moto features are nice. But that camera. In simple word, it is not worthy of a flagship camera, as simple as that. G3, Z2, S5 they all are miles better, and even G2, S4 are too. So if you can trade off the camera part, then get it, you will love it.

Z2, IMHO the best camera (I don't care about out of the phone shots, every person can do some tiny bit of editing), a nice IPS display, stereo speakers, however not that loud, IP67 certification, if that matters, a nice looking phone, however glass build, and it's a Sony after all, keeping aside my fanboysim But poor screen to body ratio, the phone is bloody big being a 5.1" one. And there is DoomLord in XDA, so the kernel management is checked.

Read the G3 vs Z2 review extensively, and separately too, and I think I personally am going for the Z2. There is a trade off or a drawback in each phone, just get the one which has less in number, according to your priority of course.

LG G3's skin is not at all like touchwiz,its more like the nexus 5's stock launcher with a few additions
G3 is more like a stock device and nexus like

kkn13 said:
LG G3's skin is not at all like touchwiz,its more like the nexus 5's stock launcher with a few additions
G3 is more like a stock device and nexus like

What? From the reviews to my eyes it seem that it's a heavily skinned Android!

I'm not talking about the launcher only.

$hadow said:
reasons against phones
1. Moto X: usable memory only 9.7 GB, small battery and poor camera
2. Htc one m8: Just one problem ie Camera
3. G3: Qhd display on SD 801 not great and bootloader locked
4. Z2: From what I read it is plagued with problems such as over heating, self cracking and over that Z3 already launched so it is outdated.

Yeah, forgot about the storage of the X, it's a let down indeed. If it came with wireless charging then always attached OTG might have been an option, but nah.

Z2 self crackling? Didn't know that!

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ithehappy said:
What? From the reviews to my eyes it seem that it's a heavily skinned Android!

I'm not talking about the launcher only.

Pocketnows reviews of each:-

michael fischers review:-
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZjjeMBex0
my friends is working great for him,not at all like touchwiz except for a bit of bloat

G3 vs S5 again michael fischer for pros and cons of both
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbwjTVqwYS0

m8 vs G3 pocketnow
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q0mI7-Nn48

this should help decide based on preference

While all the phones, HTC One E8/M8, Moto X and LG G3 is great, and all are in the league of cutting edge epecs, OP should now decide which one to buy only on the basis of pure looks.

Small variations in specs doesn't matter and what matters in the end is that first attraction you had when you first saw the phone. For me for eg, the design of HTC One M8 with its front speaker grill and its back, captivated me. And now it won't matter if a phone with better specs comes along since M8 had the best design. And in the long run, the satisfaction of owing a phone which was love at first sight will far exceed than the one which have one more amp of power.

Similarly doesn't matter if Moto X 2nd gen have better specs than Nexus 5, but the design of Nexus 5 captivated me such that owing Moto X 2nd gen won't be the same as owning a Nexus 5 even if it's a year old now.

But that's just me. I don't know whether I was able to explain clearly.

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Vyom said:
While all the phones, HTC One E8/M8, Moto X and LG G3 is great, and all are in the league of cutting edge epecs, OP should now decide which one to buy only on the basis of pure looks.

Small variations in specs doesn't matter and what matters in the end is that first attraction you had when you first saw the phone. For me for eg, the design of HTC One M8 with its front speaker grill and its back, captivated me. And now it won't matter if a phone with better specs comes along since M8 had the best design. And in the long run, the satisfaction of owing a phone which was love at first sight will far exceed than the one which have one more amp of power.

Similarly doesn't matter if Moto X 2nd gen have better specs than Nexus 5, but the design of Nexus 5 captivated me such that owing Moto X 2nd gen won't be the same as owning a Nexus 5 even if it's a year old now.

But that's just me. I don't know whether I was able to explain clearly.

makes perfect sense!!
never buy phones purely on specs etc
the "feel" of the phone also matters!!

I am in a similar boat as OP.

I had all but ruled out Sony until those Z3 battery results come out.

kkn13 said:
Pocketnows reviews of each:-

G3 vs S5 again michael fischer for pros and cons of both
*www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbwjTVqwYS0

this should help decide based on preference

Thanks. LG's skin looks same as Samsung's, extremely heavy!

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ithehappy said:
Thanks. LG's skin looks same as Samsung's, extremely heavy!

it certainly has bloatware but doesnt hinder performance unlike the samsung

kkn13 said:
it certainly has bloatware but doesnt hinder performance unlike the samsung

Hmm, that's good.

Z2 is out of consideration by the way : cracked screen | Sony Xperia Z2 | XDA Forums

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ithehappy said:
Hmm, that's good.

Z2 is out of consideration by the way : cracked screen | Sony Xperia Z2 | XDA Forums

yeah z2 is risky,the overheating issue and self cracking issue are shocking,i myself wasnt aware of it for a long time till people pointed it out last week in the forums

Thanks [MENTION=184724]kkn13[/MENTION] [MENTION=99398]ithehappy[/MENTION] ad others for the help just placed the order for M8 :-D

What made you choose the M8 over Moto?

$hadow said:
Thanks [MENTION=184724]kkn13[/MENTION] [MENTION=99398]ithehappy[/MENTION] ad others for the help just placed the order for M8

Congratulations brother.
From where, and price by the way?

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$hadow said:
Thanks [MENTION=184724]kkn13[/MENTION] [MENTION=99398]ithehappy[/MENTION] ad others for the help just placed the order for M8

nice!! im sure youll love it!!

do post a review or something

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xtremevicky said:
What made you choose the M8 over Moto?

maybe because moto lacks an sd card slot and poor battery life or something i guess
cant be camera because M8 camera resolution is low though it is not bad per say

Congrats for m8 :-D

ithehappy said:
Congratulations brother.
From where, and price by the way?

MY brother got it from Nehru Place for 37.5K

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xtremevicky said:
What made you choose the M8 over Moto?

9.7 GB is way to less once you start using 4K vidoe recording. Plus mediocre battery life and low built quality once you start comparing it with M8.
I always prefer metal built quality since it always feel nice in hand and not to forget gunmetal looks super sexy in y views.

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nice!! im sure youll love it!!
do post a review or something

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maybe because moto lacks an sd card slot and poor battery life or something i guess
cant be camera because M8 camera resolution is low though it is not bad per say

As far as camera goes me and my gf are selfie fans

and nothing gets close to that 5mp selfie camera :-D

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abhigeek said:
Congrats for m8

Thanks man

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You can't tell that m8 has better build quality than moto x. Aluminum can be bent if you applied some enough force. Which is not the case with moto.

M8 obviously, its in its own class.
moto x may be a a good phone.
But its m8 that will delight you and also turn heads. Its looks how a high end phone should like like.

this decision is not based on max performance, better camera etc.
but sheer elegance of m8 and its beautiful UI blows all android phones out of the water.

with m8 you can always flash the latest cyanogen mod too.

you can drop it daily and it will still work.
i have dropped my htc metal phone from my bike and it still lives.

I

Great choice! Was going to suggest M8 as well. It looks and feels like a truly high end phone. It will turn heads like no other. Speakers and UI is amazing too. People knock its camera down but its easily good enough if you don't want pro level photos or too much zooming. IMO its amazing in low light/darkness specially for parties and such. Much better than its competitors.

Z2 has quite a few issues but Z3 seems to have resolved most (?) and has v.good feel and looks, apart from its great battery and amazing waterproofing.

MotoX is great but not a true high end. Build/look & feel plus the camera are not good enough IMO. Battery is not that great & neither is the storage space. Very meh unless you love the voice features.

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kalam_gohab said:
You can't tell that m8 has better build quality than moto x. Aluminum can be bent if you applied some enough force. Which is not the case with moto.

you havent understood the aluminium bending problem i think
the M8 and other phones have an aluminium body with a magnesium frame inside the phone which is why they are sturdy and dont bend
iphone is slimmer,lighter and lacks the aluminium framework inside,which is a shame because even the xiaomi Mi3 (13k) has a magnesium frame which a 69k iphone 6 lacks

kalam_gohab said:
You can't tell that m8 has better build quality than moto x. Aluminum can be bent if you applied some enough force. Which is not the case with moto.

They are my views and I will keep them since who cares if a device bend or not.

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a_k_s_h_a_y said:
M8 obviously, its in its own class.
moto x may be a a good phone.
But its m8 that will delight you and also turn heads. Its looks how a high end phone should like like.

this decision is not based on max performance, better camera etc.
but sheer elegance of m8 and its beautiful UI blows all android phones out of the water.

with m8 you can always flash the latest cyanogen mod too.

you can drop it daily and it will still work.
i have dropped my htc metal phone from my bike and it still lives.

I am sure that I will check it drop and working capabilities very soon. :-D

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kkn13 said:
you havent understood the aluminium bending problem i think
the M8 and other phones have an aluminium body with a magnesium frame inside the phone which is why they are sturdy and dont bend
iphone is slimmer,lighter and lacks the aluminium framework inside,which is a shame because even the xiaomi Mi3 (13k) has a magnesium frame which a 69k iphone 6 lacks

+1 to this. And along that one has to live a bit care free since there are other pretty serious stuff going on to care about :-D

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Innocent Lies said:
Great choice! Was going to suggest M8 as well. It looks and feels like a truly high end phone. It will turn heads like no other. Speakers and UI is amazing too. People knock its camera down but its easily good enough if you don't want pro level photos or too much zooming. IMO its amazing in low light/darkness specially for parties and such. Much better than its competitors.

Z2 has quite a few issues but Z3 seems to have resolved most (?) and has v.good feel and looks, apart from its great battery and amazing waterproofing.

MotoX is great but not a true high end. Build/look & feel plus the camera are not good enough IMO. Battery is not that great & neither is the storage space. Very meh unless you love the voice features.

thanks

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$hadow said:
They are my views and I will keep them since who cares if a device bend or not.

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+1 to this. And along that one has to live a bit care free since there are other pretty serious stuff going on to care about

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thanks

btw dont forget the IR Transmitter, a must when entering stores with TVs,ACs etc

we always do this with my friends S5 and One M8 and love seeing peoples reactions
if i ever have to buy a phone in the near future itll be one with an IR

kkn13 said:
if i ever have to buy a phone in the near future itll be one with an IR

Back in the days IR used to be a feature in every phones.
These days, it's a luxury found usually only in high class phones.

kkn13 said:
btw dont forget the IR Transmitter, a must when entering stores with TVs,ACs etc
we always do this with my friends S5 and One M8 and love seeing peoples reactions
if i ever have to buy a phone in the near future itll be one with an IR

Yeah got the phone like 6 hours ago and this is actually a well crafted piece.

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Vyom said:
Back in the days IR used to be a feature in every phones.
These days, it's a luxury found usually only in high class phones.

With time meaning of luxuary changes :-D

V

Wait for one plus one ...Best vfm phone

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Vyom said:
Back in the days IR used to be a feature in every phones.
These days, it's a luxury found usually only in high class phones.

yeah i remember those days,had a nokia E51 in between,perfect IR for remotes etc
the fun of phones in those days was so different,the joy,the variety etc

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vineetkumar1988.vk said:
Wait for one plus one ...Best vfm phone

dude the op already bought M8

kkn13 said:
yeah i remember those days,had a nokia E51 in between,perfect IR for remotes etc
the fun of phones in those days was so different,the joy,the variety etc

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dude the op already bought M8

And now it's time to close the thread :mrgreen:

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@Mods please close the thread